thebenCA 0 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.258 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $44.15UTG+1: $49.85MP1: $24.65MP2: $21.90CO: $8.15Hero: $18.30SB: $5BB: $11Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with A♥ 2♣UTG calls, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1.1, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds.Flop: 8♦ 7♦ K♣ ($2.55, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, BB calls.Turn: 7♠ ($6.05, 2 players)BB checks, Hero checks.River: A♠ ($6.05, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB raises to $7.5, Hero ????? Link to post Share on other sites
Hector Cerif 0 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Fold preflopFold river, theres no way that is a bluff. (maybe a very small chance its another ace, but most likely your looking at a flush or a seven.) Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Fold preflop and it's not even close to close. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Fold preflop and it's not even close to close.i was going to make fun of Zach for commenting on FR NL but he is right Link to post Share on other sites
thebenCA 0 Posted September 6, 2008 Author Share Posted September 6, 2008 Fold A2 on the button with no action in front? I'm new to full ring games, but seems very weak... Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Fold A2 on the button with no action in front? I'm new to full ring games, but seems very weak...the hand has no value if you hit an A what is going to call you, if you hit a 2 are you going to feel comfortable. it is unsuited and you always have the low end of any two card straight draw.The river is the easiest fold ever but maybe I am the nit! Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 A2 is probably behind an UTG limping range, fwiw.I had A2o so much, I have to remind myself not to fold it every time I see it, and I play HU. If I could fold it, I would, lol. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 eh...pf should probably be a fold but you'll take the pot down uncontested so often (pf or with a c/bet) that I don't think it really matters. Link to post Share on other sites
AimHigher 0 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Fold preflopFold river, theres no way that is a bluff. (maybe a very small chance its another ace, but most likely your looking at a flush or a seven.)There's $16.50 in the pot and it's $4 to call. That means we only have to be good like 19% of the time. I'd call here all day long. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 There's $16.50 in the pot and it's $4 to call. That means we only have to be good like 19% of the time. I'd call here all day long.It's $4 to call because villain only had $5.15 behind ($11 - $1.1 - $1.75 - $3 = $5.15)Villain has to be KRAZY to c/r practically all in with less than a 7 or better hereWe have the worse ace and got c/r'ed on the river... easy foldAfter the c-bet didn't take the pot down, should have been content to check it down... it seems nitty but than you don't get c/r'ed and have no idea where you are Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 River is a clear valuebet - we're called by a lot worse (any king / pocket pair / any 8). Honestly I see hero as having played this hand fine, assuming he folded on the river. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 After the c-bet didn't take the pot down, should have been content to check it down... it seems nitty but than you don't get c/r'ed and have no idea where you are????????????????????????????Stop playing scared. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Fold A2 on the button with no action in front? I'm new to full ring games, but seems very weak......but there is action. Someone limped. If you won't to open-raise it to get your button-raising up against weakish blinds, that's fine, but generally speaking it's a fold if anyone else has entered the pot.Also, I think the river is a tad closer than y'all are giving credit for based on odds. It still may be a fold, because we're rarely winning (there are some busted draws that he may try this with), but we're going to split some portion of time. For those strongly advocating fold, what's the weakest hand that you'd call with here? Link to post Share on other sites
Hector Cerif 0 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 There's $16.50 in the pot and it's $4 to call. That means we only have to be good like 19% of the time. I'd call here all day long. I think my math got retarded by the river, but I really don't think we're ever "good"We might be splitting with an ace, but is this a line a bluff is going to take? Link to post Share on other sites
TheCincinnatiKid 0 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Fold preflop. if u do make this move, ok as played as long as u fold river. Link to post Share on other sites
Sens-Eh 0 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 fold presince you didn't fold, then c-bet flop as you did (except $2)check turn obvfold river raise - you aren't ahead here. Link to post Share on other sites
BaseJester 1 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Does any combination of spades make a flush, or do you need all 5 spades with tails or all 5 spades without tails? Link to post Share on other sites
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