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I am going to play another live event on Sunday in Sheffield, UK and was wondering if the following is allowed.Lets say the flop comes three hearts, am i allowed to say "I got a flush, i'm gonna bet"? or a different hand on the river "I got trips i suggest you fold". etcIs this illegal when i hold the hand i am verbally representing? Is it illegal if i do not hold the hand? Is there a rule speciffically naming/dealing with this?Thanks for the help,Jonnyhttp://shadesandbills.blogspot.comIf you guys attended the last Napoleans casino event on the last sunday in April or are going on sunday then there are (will be) reports availble.

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I think the general consensus is that if you are telling the truth it is not allowed and if you are lying then it is perfectly legal sorta wierd but i think that is how it is handled.

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I think talking about you hand is more likely to be tolerated if it is heads up, but if the pot is multi-way you probably shouldn't try this. And of course, don't talk about your hand if you have folded it and others have yet to act.

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The safest bet is to never talk about your hand, while the hand is in (Edit)progress. Legal, sometimes. Correct poker etiquette, never.

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Just about every response you've gotten so far is absolutely wrong. Especially the one that says that it's legal if you're not representing the hand you have. How would they prove this? Wouldn't you just always assume he's lying, since if he turns out to be telling the truth, he broke the rules? The truth is that in a cash game, it's perfectly legal to discuss your hand. In many ring games, you can even expose a card or cards. In tournaments, the rules usually change. In tournaments, your cards are usually deemed dead if exposed, and, varying from tourney to tourney, if you discuss your cards you can be penalized.

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Just about every response you've gotten so far is absolutely wrong. Especially the one that says that it's legal if you're not representing the hand you have. How would they prove this? Wouldn't you just always assume he's lying, since if he turns out to be telling the truth, he broke the rules?  The truth is that in a cash game, it's perfectly legal to discuss your hand. In many ring games, you can even expose a card or cards. In tournaments, the rules usually change. In tournaments, your cards are usually deemed dead if exposed, and, varying from tourney to tourney, if you discuss your cards you can be penalized.
this is the most correct response on this thread.aseem
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the (unwritten?) rule is that if there are still players left to act in the hand, you are not allowed to reveal any information about your holdings, whether in a tournament or a ring game. If it is down to heads-up, you can say anything, to anyone. :wink:

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Thanks for the info. It was just an idea as i had been successful in using a tactics that talk about my hand. My housemates allways fall for the old i got a flusyh iam going to bet, they suddenly don't believe you and call you down, after a while i would switch to never having the hand and sayiung i did, and they would just fold. I was hoing to employ this tactic agaisnt similar style players at the event. I will check with the tourny director before i play. I know this doesn't work against people with briain cells but a few of them will be showing up.Cheers,Tourny report on MondayJonnyhttp://shadesandbills.blogspot.com

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hmm, I would never do anything like this in a live yourney, but I guess I never thought of it actually being illegal.I love to play mind games with other players that I know well in my home games. Plus, although you may not believe in this kind of crap, sometimes I just get a hunch about a bad hand, and it usually hits.What I'll do sometimes to throw my friends off, is I'll have a bad hand, like, for instance 36 suited or something. I'll say, "honestly guys, I have a bad hand, but I'm feeling lucky" and I'll call the blind. Funny thing is, regardless of whether I hit, I usually win these hands, just because what I said preflop throws my friends off, and I can usually read them like a book after the flop. I guess its kind of unethical though, but nobody gets mad about it in my home games :club:

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why do people keep posting that the rule is one thing, but then it's different heads up? that's the most retarded thing I've heard. Why would the rule be "no, you can't talk about your hand...uhh..unless it's heads up, then it's ok..." If that's a rule why don't they make a rule where if the table has an even number of players sitting, you have to play with one of your hole cards face up? Or that if there's exactly 5 people at a table that you have to put your hole cards on your head. Why would the rule change just because it's heads up?

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why do people keep posting that the rule is one thing, but then it's different heads up? that's the most retarded thing I've heard. Why would the rule be "no, you can't talk about your hand...uhh..unless it's heads up, then it's ok..." If that's a rule why don't they make a rule where if the table has an even number of players sitting, you have to play with one of your hole cards face up? Or that if there's exactly 5 people at a table that you have to put your hole cards on your head. Why would the rule change just because it's heads up?
The difference is if there are people still to act in the hand after you. Makes a huge difference. :wink:
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I would think the best thing you could do here ischeck the rules at the specific location, as eachcard room may have a different policy on this.If you're unsure, ask a floorperson.At the casino I play at, they rule ANY exposedhand as dead if there is still action to come.I saw it cost a guy a $750 pot on the river when he showed his hand at the $500 buy-in NL table, withoutrealizing there was still one player left to act.He had a full house against a guy with an ace high flush.Needless to say, he wasn't too pleased to see his hand ruled dead, however those of us who regularly play there all knew the rule,and the ruling of the floorperson was swift (and painful)...

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