kobe2odom8 14 Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 lol its not a jokerabs owes andy moneydid he contact him? Link to post Share on other sites
astros11ss 0 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 maybe a year ago i used to talk to rab somewhat regularly on aim, and as anyone here who talks to him regularly can vouch for, he didn't have much going on for himself despite spending an insane amount of time on poker forums and around poker players in general. i was having decent success at the time and decided to offer him a staking deal to play low limit cash games under me and hopefully make something of himself/build a roll/learn the game at a higher level/etc etc. this happened a long time ago so i don't exactly remember the stipulations but it was something like i sent him 2k to play 2 tables of less of .10/.25nl with plans to move up as things starting going well. so things start out ok, he grinds some, sends me hhs to talk about, etc. again since this was so long ago my memory is kinda hazy but as i remember it, after a few months or so he just more or less disappeared, was never online and wouldn't respond to my offline ims i would leave him.then one day after dodging me for weeks or possibly months, he reappears with some story about how he decided to 4 table .25/.50 plo one weekend and lost the entire bankroll i had given up in just under 2 days. obviously this was a huge shock to me as it never occured to me he could lose more than a few buyins of my money without either taking a break or coming to me to talk about hands or something. i felt betrayed in many ways: i did not want him 4 tabling while learning a new game, i did not want him playing with only 20 buyins while 4 tabling, and i certainly did not expect he would lose the entire bankroll i provided him with and then not be man enough to even tell me about it for weeks/months afterwards. just the fact that he took so long to even admit to what he had done signalled to me that he realized he had made a big mistake and he told me he felt responsible and would find a way to pay me back the money he degened off during his weekend of fun. anyways, we both agreed that becuase it was a stake deal asking him to pay the entire bankroll back was a little much, but at the very least he owed me half of the original stake (1k of the 2k stake) because of his degenerate behavior that he acknowledged i wouldn't have allowed if he had asked me (and fwiw, i think i was pretty generous agreeing that he only owed me half). so he tells me he does not have any money to pay me back but he will either put money he gets from his real job online to pay me back or he will do work for me to pay off his debt, i.e. writing papers or something similar. so for one of my classes i give him an 4-5 page midterm essay a week in advance of the due date. he looks the assignment over quickly, assures me it will be really easy and simple and he will get started on it asap. 6 days pass, and on monday evening (the paper is due tuesday) i im him to ask about the paper, he says he's been busy and still hasn't started it but will crank it out in a few hours tonight and have it ready for me tomorrow. the next day i wake up and open my inbox to print the paper and find an email from rab explaining how he "just couldn't do it," whatever that means. so anyways after this incident where rab leaves me completely ****ed on a school assignment on the day it's due, i decide that a) i certainly can't trust him to play poker with my money and B) i can't really trust him to do anything else to pay it back and tell rab that i think he owes me the money he joy-spewed (a la joy ride) away. he agrees that he still owes me $950 and we set up a payment plan where he agrees to pay me $150 on the 15th of every month starting in march with the last payment in august being $200. that's basically the end of the story, we agreed to this payment plan at the beginning of march and he has been dodging/ignoring me since then. if anyone knows of any way that i can get my money from him i will pay $100 on any site for info that leads to me getting my money back. i am especially interested in any information anyone could give me about rab's dad (name, contact info, etc) as rab has spoken many times about how rich and smart his dad is (so he should be able to understand the situation as well as have the means to pay me back). rab's information isn't very helpful since he refuses to acknowledge my ims, but any information about how to contact his parents would be fantastic (or any other ideas about how to get my money back in general). i would recommend anyone who is friends with rab take a serious look at who you are friends with, i can't imagine anyone has ever put as much on the line in faith of rab as i have (grindermj can vouch for the fact that i didn't necessarily plan on making money in this stake deal, i was more doing it to get rab off the ground and give him a chance to succeed since he didn't seem to be able to put himself in that position and no one else seemed willing to either) and not only did he lose all my money and lie about it for months, but to this day he is still not even man enough to contact me and talk to me about it, let alone actually settle his debt. 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ah2388 0 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 i staked him for $5 sngs, and although I cant entirely confirm it..I believe I may have been wronged in a couple ways after hearing all of this. I dont know for sure because I didnt keep very good records, however it kind of makes sense that I was shorted some money <50:(bleh Link to post Share on other sites
JustLikeNegs 1 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 someone want to me my staker?????hope u get your $ back BK, its the principle if not the amount that matters. Link to post Share on other sites
CBass1724 1 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 This thread is respectable, at best. Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Welcome back (however brief...) Link to post Share on other sites
GrinderMJ 0 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 vouched. i told him it was an awful idea fwiw Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Anyone who has any future intentions of loaning him money or staking him, either read BK's post he just made, or check out this thread:http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...;hl=MyPlayIsRabI'm sure everyone remembers that one. Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 This thread has:[x] BK[x] Kevlar[x] GrinderMJ[x] Wandigo[x] NNB[ ] RAB being honest and paying Andy back what he owes him[x] RAB being a scumbag[x] Andy is a good person[x] Mama Bear Link to post Share on other sites
GrinderMJ 0 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 This thread has:[x] BK[x] Kevlar[x] GrinderMJ[x] Wandigo[x] NNB[x] King1305[x] His breasts[ ] RAB being honest and paying Andy back what he owes him[x] RAB being a scumbag[x] Andy is a good person[x] Mama Bear Link to post Share on other sites
BigLebowski 0 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 writing papers or something similar. so for one of my classes i give him an 4-5 page midterm essay a week in advance of the due date. he looks the assignment over quickly, assures me it will be really easy and simple and he will get started on it asap. 6 days pass, and on monday evening (the paper is due tuesday) i im him to ask about the paper, he says he's been busy and still hasn't started it but will crank it out in a few hours tonight and have it ready for me tomorrow. the next day i wake up and open my inbox to print the paper and find an email from rab explaining how he "just couldn't do it," whatever that means. so anyways after this incident where rab leaves me completely ****ed on a school assignment on the day it's due,As the resident teacher here, I have to say you kind of got what you deserved on this. Not hatin the playa....hatin the game. Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Nice of BK to give the guy a chance when he was bustoed, but unfortunately RAB obviously would rather be a drunk degen then be smart and grind. I have friends like this who I have helped numerous times only to have it thrown back in my face, I came to the conclusion that because of the help they receive it enables them to continue their irresponsible behaviour and use other people as a safety net. It's better much of the time to cut them off and let them struggle than to be an enabler, trying to help is the right instinct but usually does'nt do anyone any good especially the guys that are continuously broke because of lack of self control.-Kinish Link to post Share on other sites
GrinderMJ 0 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 bump, mods can we get a thread title change? Link to post Share on other sites
no not baxter 0 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 bump, mods can we get a thread title change?LOL! Link to post Share on other sites
troyomac 0 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Wtf is Randy from Trailor Park Boys doing on a bus? Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Wtf is Randy from Trailor Park Boys doing on a bus?Coming back from jail AFAIK Link to post Share on other sites
troyomac 0 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Coming back from jail AFAIKOhhhh, thanks. I haven't watched the show that much in a few years. Link to post Share on other sites
ah2388 0 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 patrick schnarr (8:05:07 PM): so you think i shorted you when youst aked me?patrick schnarr (8:05:15 PM): im kinda wondering how? my stats wer all in sharkscopepatrick schnarr (8:05:31 PM): if you think i did, just tell me how much.. because i know for a fact i didnt dick around on itpatrick schnarr (8:06:00 PM): anyways, im off to jog, but i have omney on stars if for some reason you notice it was short, even tho i know it wasntpatrick schnarr (8:06:23 PM): and fyi, im not out to **** anyone over, i paid back like the 500$ i owed to various peolpe as son as i cashed in that big tourneypatrick schnarr (8:06:28 PM): so i have zero debtpatrick schnarr (8:06:31 PM): minus what bk claims i owepatrick schnarr (8:06:33 PM): ill blpatrick schnarr (8:06:34 PM): bblguess he lurks this threadas i said, idk if he dicked around with me or not...but it certainly seemed to me like something was up-adam Link to post Share on other sites
no not baxter 0 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 guess he lurks this threadas i said, idk if he dicked around with me or not...but it certainly seemed to me like something was up-adamlol of course he lurks this thread. hes just a huge...S Link to post Share on other sites
Vtlaxer09 4 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Pay zat man his money. Link to post Share on other sites
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