Comatose_Soul 0 Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) converterBB ($10.70)UTG ($10.05)Hero ($25.70)MP1 ($25.50)MP2 ($12)MP3 ($26.55)CO ($11.65)Button ($10.40)SB ($36)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Qs, Qh. 1 fold.Flop: ($4.25) Ts, 3s, 6c (4 players)SB checks, Hero bets $4, MP1 calls $4, Button folds, SB folds.Turn: ($12.25) 7h (2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets $6, MP1 calls $6.River: ($36.25) 9s (2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets $8.5 (All-In), Hero calls $8.50.Final Pot: $53.25Results in white below: Hero has Qs Qh (one pair, queens). MP1 has 9d 7c (two pair, nines and sevens). Outcome: MP1 wins $53.25. Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 You should be all in on the turn actually. Link to post Share on other sites
otnemem 0 Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em' date=' $0.25 BB (9 handed) converterBB ($10.70)UTG ($10.05)Hero ($25.70)MP1 ($25.50)MP2 ($12)MP3 ($26.55)CO ($11.65)Button ($10.40)SB ($36)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Qs, Qh. 1 fold.Flop: ($4.25) Ts, 3s, 6c (4 players)SB checks, Hero bets $4, MP1 calls $4, Button folds, SB folds.Turn: ($12.25) 7h (2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets $6, MP1 calls $6.River: ($36.25) 9s (2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets $8.5 (All-In), Hero calls $8.50.Final Pot: $53.25Results in white below: Hero has Qs Qh (one pair, queens). MP1 has 9d 7c (two pair, nines and sevens). Outcome: MP1 wins $53.25. The turn bet is absolutely horrendous. Do you honestly think Queens are strong enough against this board to check-minraise? This is a horrible place to make this raise. Link to post Share on other sites
Comatose_Soul 0 Posted May 11, 2005 Author Share Posted May 11, 2005 The turn bet is absolutely horrendous. Do you honestly think Queens are strong enough against this board to check-minraise? This is a horrible place to make this raise.How do you play it on the turn?I did not put him on Aces or Kings. This table was coming over the top of any raise with a hand like that. Cold calling the flop bet, made me think he caught a piece, but not much:A10K10Maybe JJLess likely:A3A6Least likely:8910636What hands do you put him on at the turn, and what is your play? All-in? Check-call? Check-all-in? Check-fold? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 You should be all in on the turn actually.agreedthat was a weak ass raise to, never raise the minimum in NL Link to post Share on other sites
Comatose_Soul 0 Posted May 11, 2005 Author Share Posted May 11, 2005 You should be all in on the turn actually.agreedthat was a weak ass raise to, never raise the minimum in NLSo your fine with the check-raise if the raise is up to $20 opposed to $12? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 You should be all in on the turn actually.agreedthat was a weak ass raise to, never raise the minimum in NLSo your fine with the check-raise if the raise is up to $20 opposed to $12?....since im not even sure you had 20 left...go allin before hes nearly pot commited, dont check...go allin Link to post Share on other sites
Comatose_Soul 0 Posted May 11, 2005 Author Share Posted May 11, 2005 ....since im not even sure you had 20 left...go allin before hes nearly pot commited, dont check...go allinPrior to any of the betting on the turn:I had $20.70He had $20.50Pushing in seems to be the consensus. Link to post Share on other sites
Nutcracker 0 Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 The board is pretty draw heavy. All in on the turn is larger than pot size, but any decent size bet is gonna commit you both anyway, so an overbet is fine. Push in on the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
otnemem 0 Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 The turn bet is absolutely horrendous. Do you honestly think Queens are strong enough against this board to check-minraise? This is a horrible place to make this raise.How do you play it on the turn?I did not put him on Aces or Kings. This table was coming over the top of any raise with a hand like that. Cold calling the flop bet, made me think he caught a piece, but not much:A10K10Maybe JJLess likely:A3A6Least likely:8910636What hands do you put him on at the turn, and what is your play? All-in? Check-call? Check-all-in? Check-fold?IMO you have two options - check raise all in or lead out with a 3/4 to pot sized bet. He's a 4:1 dog, and by check min raising you're giving him close to 5:1 on a call, making it an easy call on his part. You need to put more pressure on him. Link to post Share on other sites
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