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Is 11% really that out of line for a tourney with close to 15000 people? If 15% of the field gets paid which is the norm I actually like what they did today more than any other structure. Close to 3/4 of the people who cashed got a min cash leaving more money for the top 4%. I an a very low volume player but when I occasionally did make it deep in a tourney it drove me crazy to make the top 18 in a tourney with a couple thousnad players and not even making 4 times what a min cash was. Or before when the diffrence between 1st and second was roughly double people complained about that too. if you pay 14% regularly for 1st with 7k partcipants that number does have to go down for 15000.
15% is definitely not a standard payout structure. 10%, or less, is the standard at WSOP tournaments, and most online tournaments.
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15% is silly, but paying only 10% to a winner of a tournament of any buy in, with any amount of entrants, seems to be the bigger issue to our tournament specialists.

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15% is silly, but paying only 10% to a winner of a tournament of any buy in, with any amount of entrants, seems to be the bigger issue to our peeps that love torturing themselves
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15% is definitely not a standard payout structure. 10%, or less, is the standard at WSOP tournaments, and most online tournaments.
No the 15% is standard for the Sunday Million is the point I was getting at. The 15% for the Sunday Million is nothing new.
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threads too long, skipped the last 4 or 5 pages. Not mentioned in the first several is the fact that most people sateliitte into the SM. If a $3 tourney player doesnt think hes got a reasonable shot at making at least the 215 back with a little profit, hes either cashing the entry in for T$ or not playing the satellites at all.

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threads too long, skipped the last 4 or 5 pages. Not mentioned in the first several is the fact that most people sateliitte into the SM. If a $3 tourney player doesnt think hes got a reasonable shot at making at least the 215 back with a little profit, hes either cashing the entry in for T$ or not playing the satellites at all.
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what are you talking about[x] mostly correct
most people who qualify for the sunday million do not take the T$, they just want the money. Do you really think the random fish looks at the payout scale and even if they do will they recognize a difference and even if they do recognize a difference who says they like a flatter payout structure?also, my point about it not mattering is mostly to the fact that i dont care what else this does, i just want tournament poker to be tournament poker. I want the normal % of the field being paid with the normal % of $ going to first. I don't want this all changed and make it all gayed up because stars wants more dinero.
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If you get to the pics I posted....yes.
You were right. That was probably the only worthwhile thing to read/look at.
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I'm sure this is already mentioned, as I only got thru about 5 pages and I'm 95% sure the thread is de-railed by now. But all of you saying fish cashing in the event would "bring in more money." How about a bigger 1st place prize? I think if first were something like $1M or even 500k, there'd be a TON of fish who would play just to have a chance at that. Bigger first place payouts means more fish/nits take shots thinking "ZOMG I COULD WIN ONE MILLION DOLLARS" or what have you.

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I'm sure this is already mentioned, as I only got thru about 5 pages and I'm 95% sure the thread is de-railed by now. But all of you saying fish cashing in the event would "bring in more money." How about a bigger 1st place prize? I think if first were something like $1M or even 500k, there'd be a TON of fish who would play just to have a chance at that. Bigger first place payouts means more fish/nits take shots thinking "ZOMG I COULD WIN ONE MIGNION DOLLARS" or what have you.
Agreed, well said..... Oh, and FYP a bit.....
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hub dub rode into town with an opinion:funny-pictures-superior-cat-on-horse.jpgrdog respectfully disagreed:funny-dog-pictures-lassie-makes-empty-threats1.jpghub dub shrugged it off:funny-pictures-big-brother-cat-bullies-little-cat.jpgnosup felt the pain of tourney players:funny-pictures-sarcastic-symphony-cat.jpgfcpbob saw the warning signs & tried to save the day:funny-pictures-rose-will-never-let-go.jpgnoone was surprised:funny-pictures-cats-dont-see-you-there-bob.jpghub dub expressed his feelings on the counter-arguments:funny-pictures-cats-fart-mouth.jpgkevlar molested agreed with hub dub:funny-pictures-inappropriate-cat-purple-bear1.jpgking showed up to make a funny:funny-pictures-cat-wig-dress-home-early.jpg

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... which hub dub disliked:funny-pictures-why-you-should-not-wash-the-cat.jpgso they discussed it civilly:funny-pictures-fighting-cats-constructive-feedback.jpgkevlar showed everyone how silly they looked:funny-pictures-red-shoes-cat-stupid.jpgking stuck to his story:funny-pictures-anakin-cat.jpgpoker addict made an appearance:funny-pictures-cat-invisible-putting-on-pants.jpg... which didn't go un-noticed:funny-pictures-pants-more-often.jpghub dub was hurt by the name calling:funny-pictures-hamster-is-slain-by-brutus.jpgrivergirl heard about d!cks swinging:funny-pictures-rabbit-eats-thread.jpgthere was a brief appearance by ouch8:funny-pictures-giraffe-shuns-duck1.jpgafter a tense wait, grindermj swaggered in to tell it like it is:funny-pictures-polar-bear-poops-mini.jpg

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and then he dealt with some fans:funny-pictures-big-spooning-cats.jpgsome of fcp still didn't get it:funny-pictures-cat-cannot-brain-today.jpgsome didn't care:funny-pictures-care-o-meter-cat.jpgspecbrad tried to derail things some more:mandpussyref.jpgit worked:funny-pictures-cat-eyes-bosom.jpgfcpbob again tried to save the day, but:funny-pictures-organization-superhero-cat.jpgand fcp just couldn't stop reading:funny-pictures-infected-cat-thirsty-for-human-flesh.jpg

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