So How Are Fatty's Treated In Church

[Piddle Duck 0]

I somehow got caught in the middle of a gay pride parade this past weekend. I wasn't there for that I was there for a meeting at a hotel near it and I found it incredibly interesting. Not the gay people though, the Christians. Here is my question and I could be totally missing the point and that is fine because that is one of the reasons I am asking... about 75% of the people I saw holding signs or speaking on loud speakers about how homosexuality is a sin and they are all going to hell unless they change were obese. Not fat, obese. Isn't that technically a sin? Gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins and most of these people were obviously very good at being gluttonous. So how is it that they feel the need to point out others people's alleged sins when they themselves are allegedly sinners? Do fat people in church get pointed out during certain sermons about sin? I am genuinely curious or is this one of those things where being fat is a sin that is allowed?Again, as stated in the past, I do believe in God but I do not go to church and I have not studied the Bible so I am sure someone will come and show me some passages that explain all this but I don't get how people can comment and condemn other people's actions as being a sin when they themselves are sinners? I mean we got some seriously knowledgeable religious people in this forum (that is why I thought to come here) that play poker. Isn't gambling a sin? Or has the church come to the conclusion that poker is a game of skill and not chance thus it is not considered gambling? How about smoking? I had a girlfriend once who told me that I was going to hell because I was a smoker. She said that my body was God's vessel and I was destroying it for pleasure. If anyone can shed some light on the fatty issue and the other stuff that would be great as I find it interesting.

[HollywoodAFD 0]

I somehow got caught in the middle of a gay pride parade this past weekend. I wasn't there for that I was there for a meeting at a hotel near it and I found it incredibly interesting. Not the gay people though, the Christians. Here is my question and I could be totally missing the point and that is fine because that is one of the reasons I am asking... about 75% of the people I saw holding signs or speaking on loud speakers about how homosexuality is a sin and they are all going to hell unless they change were obese. Not fat, obese. Isn't that technically a sin? Gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins and most of these people were obviously very good at being gluttonous. So how is it that they feel the need to point out others people's alleged sins when they themselves are allegedly sinners? Do fat people in church get pointed out during certain sermons about sin? I am genuinely curious or is this one of those things where being fat is a sin that is allowed?Again, as stated in the past, I do believe in God but I do not go to church and I have not studied the Bible so I am sure someone will come and show me some passages that explain all this but I don't get how people can comment and condemn other people's actions as being a sin when they themselves are sinners? I mean we got some seriously knowledgeable religious people in this forum (that is why I thought to come here) that play poker. Isn't gambling a sin? Or has the church come to the conclusion that poker is a game of skill and not chance thus it is not considered gambling? How about smoking? I had a girlfriend once who told me that I was going to hell because I was a smoker. She said that my body was God's vessel and I was destroying it for pleasure. If anyone can shed some light on the fatty issue and the other stuff that would be great as I find it interesting.

Show me one person that follows every aspect of the bible and I'll show you a liar.It's not about Christian... it's human nature for us to point out what someone else is doing wrong, all the while having faults of our own.It's what we do as people.To be a Christian is to understand that we all are sinners. Why some people feel the need to point out others sins is beyond me. In the eyes of God... any sin is just as bad as another. God doesn't think stealing a cracker is better than stealing a car... they are both sins. We can't help but sin. We sin every day.So I guess I don't have an answer for you... just understand that every person, religious or not, Christian or atheist, will point out others flaws. "Let those without sin cast the first stone."

[CaneBrain 95]

"Let those without sin cast the first stone."

Christians in this country are so ****ing bad at following the above quote it is laughable.basically you just highlighted my biggest ongoing problem with Christianity.....they have all these fun and smart sayings like "let those without sin cast the first stone" and "judge not lest ye be judged".....and then they go out and pronounce judment on things and throw stones.

[HollywoodAFD 0]

Christians in this country are so ****ing bad at following the above quote it is laughable.basically you just highlighted my biggest ongoing problem with Christianity.....they have all these fun and smart sayings like "let those without sin cast the first stone" and "judge not lest ye be judged".....and then they go out and pronounce judment on things and throw stones.

That's really funny.You just did what you said you dislike about Christians.My point was... everyone does it... not just Christians. Even you.

[CaneBrain 95]

That's really funny.You just did what you said you dislike about Christians.My point was... everyone does it... not just Christians. Even you.

yeah but I only judge people who judge people.this is really confusing.and I didnt really judge you per se. more just a commentary on something general.

[Piddle Duck 0]

So if each and every one of us has sinned then why bother? We are all going to hell right? So are Christians just sucking up in hopes to be let in? I know that comes off harsh and may offend but I am don't really feel like beating around the bush. Like braveheart on here. He seems to be very into this religion thing from all the topics I have read, but I bet he has sinned. If sinning ends your chances to be with God why spend so much time and energy on it?

[HollywoodAFD 0]

So if each and every one of us has sinned then why bother? We are all going to hell right? So are Christians just sucking up in hopes to be let in? I know that comes off harsh and may offend but I am don't really feel like beating around the bush. Like braveheart on here. He seems to be very into this religion thing from all the topics I have read, but I bet he has sinned. If sinning ends your chances to be with God why spend so much time and energy on it?

No... according to the Bible..we are all sinners but Jesus died for our sins so that we can enter heaven by accepting Jesus as our savior. ... in a nut shell.To elaborate a bit... it doesn't give us carte blanche to run willy nilly. But in my mind... getting to heaven isn't a case of having to be perfect either.(cue the "So I can do whatever I want and say Im sorry at the end?")Nobody truly knows of course... I just believe that one day we'll all have to answer to the "Man" for what we've done.

[Piddle Duck 0]

No... according to the Bible..we are all sinners but Jesus died for our sins so that we can enter heaven by accepting Jesus as our savior. ... in a nut shell.To elaborate a bit... it doesn't give us carte blanche to run willy nilly. But in my mind... getting to heaven isn't a case of having to be perfect either.(cue the "So I can do whatever I want and say Im sorry at the end?")Nobody truly knows of course... I just believe that one day we'll all have to answer to the "Man" for what we've done.

I agree with that as well. We all cannot be perfect and as long as I don't go around killing people and doing anything really major than I believe I will be okay.I guess my point is that people who feels the need to get out of bed, eat 6 cheeseburgers, and then head out to a gay pride parade and condemn the sinners when they themselves are equally just as wrong in their Gods eyes? To me I think Christians (and other people as well) like to judge and condemn other people's actions but never their own actions which in turn makes them look foolish and hypocritical. Which again just puts a sour taste in my mouth that I can't seem to get rid of. I just don't get the thought process on religious people of any divinity but since I around more Christians than anything else, I really don't get them.

[HollywoodAFD 0]

I agree with that as well. We all cannot be perfect and as long as I don't go around killing people and doing anything really major than I believe I will be okay.I guess my point is that people who feels the need to get out of bed, eat 6 cheeseburgers, and then head out to a gay pride parade and condemn the sinners when they themselves are equally just as wrong in their Gods eyes? To me I think Christians (and other people as well) like to judge and condemn other people's actions but never their own actions which in turn makes them look foolish and hypocritical. Which again just puts a sour taste in my mouth that I can't seem to get rid of. I just don't get the thought process on religious people of any divinity but since I around more Christians than anything else, I really don't get them.

Reminds me of last year while at NASCAR... a buddy walked up to me and another friend while we were having a smoke. He began to tell me how bad that was for me and he couldn't see how anyone could do that to their body.... then he sipped his beer. My reply... "We'll at least my liver will be ok when I have lung cancer." His reply.... "touche'"And by the way... you can't offend me just by not believing the same things I do. I enjoy all talks.

[HubDub04 0]

I somehow got caught in the middle of a gay pride parade this past weekend. I wasn't there for that I was there for a meeting at a hotel near it and I found it incredibly interesting. Not the gay people though, the Christians.

LOL i'm sure.

[Piddle Duck 0]

LOL i'm sure.

See here is a perfect example of a hypocrite. This cocksucker goes around trolling topics and I called him out on it one day and he got all whiny saying I was a troll, then I leave him be and here he is trying to imply that I am a homosexual. A perfect example of a hypocrite. You got me. I am a lesbian.

[HollywoodAFD 0]

See here is a perfect example of a hypocrite. This cocksucker goes around trolling topics and I called him out on it one day and he got all whiny saying I was a troll, then I leave him be and here he is trying to imply that I am a homosexual. A perfect example of a hypocrite. You got me. I am a lesbian.

Take it from me... either have a sense of humor when someone does that... or ignore them. There are a few on here that just do crap to make you respond the way you just did.I'm not saying that's what he did... I actually thought about doing the same thing to your post because it's kind of funny if you think about it.

[HubDub04 0]

See here is a perfect example of a hypocrite. This cocksucker goes around trolling topics and I called him out on it one day and he got all whiny saying I was a troll, then I leave him be and here he is trying to imply that I am a homosexual. A perfect example of a hypocrite. You got me. I am a lesbian.

I win.Again.You make it so f ucking easy piddle dick.

[Piddle Duck 0]

Take it from me... either have a sense of humor when someone does that... or ignore them. There are a few on here that just do crap to make you respond the way you just did.I'm not saying that's what he did... I actually thought about doing the same thing to your post because it's kind of funny if you think about it.

There was a gay pride parade, Orgins (board game convention, which was funny because there were actual protesters for that as well lol) and some other event that I couldn't figure out. Who would have thought that downtown Columbus would have been so busy and exciting. I was just at a hotel for a mandatory computer class for work. Still though, I am a lesbian.

[HollywoodAFD 0]

There was a gay pride parade, Orgins (board game convention, which was funny because there were actual protesters for that as well lol) and some other event that I couldn't figure out. Who would have thought that downtown Columbus would have been so busy and exciting. I was just at a hotel for a mandatory computer class for work. Still though, I am a lesbian.

Well... congrats on your lesbianism. That's a whole other story.... why do gays (not all) feel the need to show their sexual preference with bumper stickers. Hetero's don't.*ducks*

[Piddle Duck 0]

Well... congrats on your lesbianism. That's a whole other story.... why do gays (not all) feel the need to show their sexual preference with bumper stickers. Hetero's don't.*ducks*

I don't know. Good question. I am a guy though, so I was kidding, sorta, about being a lesbian. That always bothered me. You can have a all black school but if there is an all white school then it is racist. Oh well, society is and always will be messed up and backwards. Just got keep on truckin'

[Balloon guy 158]

Reminds me of last year while at NASCAR... a buddy walked up to me and another friend while we were having a smoke. He began to tell me how bad that was for me and he couldn't see how anyone could do that to their body.... then he sipped his beer. My reply... "We'll at least my liver will be ok when I have lung cancer." His reply.... "touche'"And by the way... you can't offend me just by not believing the same things I do. I enjoy all talks.

Wait....you smoke???

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SINNER UNCLEAN!

[Balloon guy 158]

I somehow got caught in the middle of a gay pride parade this past weekend. I wasn't there for that I was there for a meeting at a hotel near it and I found it incredibly interesting. Not the gay people though, the Christians. Here is my question and I could be totally missing the point and that is fine because that is one of the reasons I am asking... about 75% of the people I saw holding signs or speaking on loud speakers about how homosexuality is a sin and they are all going to hell unless they change were obese. Not fat, obese. Isn't that technically a sin? Gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins and most of these people were obviously very good at being gluttonous. So how is it that they feel the need to point out others people's alleged sins when they themselves are allegedly sinners? Do fat people in church get pointed out during certain sermons about sin? I am genuinely curious or is this one of those things where being fat is a sin that is allowed?Again, as stated in the past, I do believe in God but I do not go to church and I have not studied the Bible so I am sure someone will come and show me some passages that explain all this but I don't get how people can comment and condemn other people's actions as being a sin when they themselves are sinners? I mean we got some seriously knowledgeable religious people in this forum (that is why I thought to come here) that play poker. Isn't gambling a sin? Or has the church come to the conclusion that poker is a game of skill and not chance thus it is not considered gambling? How about smoking? I had a girlfriend once who told me that I was going to hell because I was a smoker. She said that my body was God's vessel and I was destroying it for pleasure. If anyone can shed some light on the fatty issue and the other stuff that would be great as I find it interesting.

If you are going to have to include everyone in your relationship with God, then why not include them in your relationship with your girlfriend? Anything anyone ever does should be relevant to how you interact with your girlfriend right? So if some girl cheats on her boyfriend, you should assume your girlfriend cheated on you.There are always bad examples of people behaving badly in every group, be it Chrisitan, veterans, or those rotten Shriners with their fezzes and crippled old men horning in on my balloon twisting business.But what you witnessed is pretty much a western Chrisitan phenomona, in the poorer countries, Chrisitans are very skinny...and spend less time in political causes because of free time and talk radio.This group was probably just a bunch of people that got offended when during Easter the homosexuals decided to picket the Catholic church and throw condoms at the nuns, oh wait, that was San Francisco.

[HollywoodAFD 0]

Wait....you smoke???

We, and by 'we' I mean 'I', do a lot at NASCAR that I don't do other places. Kind of like Vegas.But to answer your question.. Macanudo torpedo is my fave... also menthol cigarettes.Only at NASCAR though... not really a smoker.

[Piddle Duck 0]

If you are going to have to include everyone in your relationship with God, then why not include them in your relationship with your girlfriend? Anything anyone ever does should be relevant to how you interact with your girlfriend right? So if some girl cheats on her boyfriend, you should assume your girlfriend cheated on you.There are always bad examples of people behaving badly in every group, be it Chrisitan, veterans, or those rotten Shriners with their fezzes and crippled old men horning in on my balloon twisting business.But what you witnessed is pretty much a western Chrisitan phenomona, in the poorer countries, Chrisitans are very skinny...and spend less time in political causes because of free time and talk radio.This group was probably just a bunch of people that got offended when during Easter the homosexuals decided to picket the Catholic church and throw condoms at the nuns, oh wait, that was San Francisco.

I don't get the girlfriend thing? She was very religious at the time and is now even a minister, or so it says on her myspace page. She would lecture me on all the sins that I did. If it wasn't for her nice ass I would have never put up with it. So I don't get what you are saying there...feel free to explain if it was important.So, clearly you have a relationship with God as you post about it freely on this board. Can you explain to me in your opinion about sinning and how it all works. Some people say sinners go to hell. Some say they don't. Some can what's the word, absolve their sins by saying some hail marys and giving some coin to the church. Is sinning really a big part of it or is it some system set up to gain more control over people. Again, not trying to offend, I just don't get it. I have been to churches and heard the bad things that happen to sinners but as Hollywood pointed out, everyone sins, so does that mean no one gets to heaven?? If so then what is the point of giving your life to God? I have to think that there are indeed levels of sin. Killing someone, stealing, doin your friends wife, etc are up there in the big no no list God has, but homosexuality and taking the Lords name in vein might be just an inch under those rules, and then gambling, smoking, being fat, being lazy and greedy is way at the bottom and often is ignored when it's time to own up. Is that right or are they all equal? And if they are, then who can get in?

[loogie 115]

Let's get back on subject, shall we? Fat people are treated very well in church. Haven't you ever wondered why pews have no armrests?

[Piddle Duck 0]

Let's get back on subject, shall we? Fat people are treated very well in church. Haven't you ever wondered why pews have no armrests?

You should be a stand up comedian.

[loogie 115]

You should be a stand up comedian.

I broke out my audio recorder and noted that last gem for my upcoming triumphant return to the stage.

[brvheart 1,751]

I broke out my audio recorder and noted that last gem for my upcoming triumphant return to the stage.

time? place? If it's in Minneapolis, I'm there.

[brvheart 1,751]

You should be a stand up comedian.

he is.