Reraised With Top Pair By Lag Player

[thebenCA 0]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.comFlopTurnRiver.com (Format: Plain Text)Button ($17.70)SB ($19.65)BB ($9.10)UTG ($4.95)Hero ($8.55)Preflop: Hero is MP with Jh, 8h. 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.3, 1 fold, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold.Flop: ($0.70) 3d, 8s, 5s (2 players)SB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $1.2, SB calls $0.70.Turn: ($3.10) 5d (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $7.05, SB calls $1.05.River: ($17.20) Ks (2 players)Final Pot: $17.20

[d0c 0]

Rebuy PFRaise more on flop (1.5-1.8)Check behind on turn

[Solar 0]

Raise more on flop. Once that bet is called, you are beaten 95% of the time, so pretty much just give up from there. You could also save yourself the trouble and fold PF. J8 is a crappy hand.

[thebenCA 0]

Raise more on flop. Once that bet is called, you are beaten 95% of the time, so pretty much just give up from there. You could also save yourself the trouble and fold PF. J8 is a crappy hand.

so you'll never open J8 from the button when folded to you in a 5 handed game?

[NoBBiR 0]

Raise more on flop. Once that bet is called, you are beaten 95% of the time, so pretty much just give up from there. You could also save yourself the trouble and fold PF. J8 is a crappy hand.

so you'll never open J8 from the button when folded to you in a 5 handed game?

I don't mind opening the BTN short handed with J8s when folded to at all. Actually, I really like it.Flop is fine, turn I think is a check behind and call most rivers. Betting and getting it all-in is really bad unless by LAG you mean he's going all-in with any two all the time. I think you're going to be beaten a lot here.And yes, rebuy PF. Always play with a full stack.

[mtdesmoines 3]

fold to the turn raise

[TheCincinnatiKid 0]

raise a little more on flop and check turn. and fold to big bets. this isnt really the spot u are looking for to stack off. ur beat 90% agreed.

[AimHigher 0]

Trying not to be results oriented, what range of hands do you think he is leading for close to pot into a preflop raiser with?I'd say his range should be made up mostly of strong draws, two pairs, sets and maybe some 8x hands. We're raising the flop to get value from draws on a co-ordinated board, but aren't most of the draws in his range actually slight favorite over our hand?If we had made a pot sized raise on the flop, then the pot would have been $4.10 on the turn. That means pretty much any turn bets we make are pot committing. That means that if we flat call, then he fires $1.20 on the turn and we call again, we've made it all the way to the river for the same price as a standard flop raise. In other words I'm saying, I don't think we should be bloating the pot on the flop with a marginal hand when a worse hand won't call. On the turn, I think we need to check behind and call on any river that's a J, 8 or some random blank that doesn't complete a flush draw and isn't an ace. It's also pretty unlikely he's getting it in with worse than J8 on the turn.

[Snamuh 0]

so you'll never open J8 from the button when folded to you in a 5 handed game?

From looking at all of your posts, here is something you should understand. The better player you are postflop, the wider you can open preflop. I think you like all of the "pretty hands" but you play them poorly postflop. In your case, you would do yourself a favor by just folding preflop. J8s is a fairly light open from MP in a 5 handed game to begin with, so you are going to need to play it very well postflop in order to be profitable. Why did you raise the flop? Why did you then bet the turn? I think you should reconsider your game some and try to plug some leaks and reassess your skill. You don't respond well to the "fold preflop," but your postflop play definitely justifies that advice being given.

[Sens-Eh 0]

I would play J,8s from the CO (which I believe is where you are here) a good amount of the time. But as others have pointed out, it depends on how comfortable you are with your postflop play. There is no harm in folding that hand preflop. On the flop, everyone is saying to raise it more - I agree as well. You raise it 70 cents which isn't enough to get him to fold out anything. Personally I raise it to ~$2. Now he has to call $1.50 and a lot of draws are a lot less attractive.As played, when he checks to you on the turn, I check behind. It's time to keep this pot under control!You've invested your entire stack with J,8. When you started the hand where you hoping to pair your 8 and go all the way with it? Better hands come along to play for your stack with. Wait for them.p.s. play with a full stack

[NoSup4U 0]

Rebuy PFRaise more on flop (1.5-1.8)Check behind on turn

Raising the flop and then checking behind the turn does not make any sense. You raise the flop and throw pot control out the window, and then decide to pot control the turn?Also, nobody should ever have a made hand and say: well, I raised him and he called me, so he must have a better hand. Do you see why this also makes no sense? Mark