No_Neck 0 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 So there are some good games on AP but they are all 1/2 games and I am 100% not rolled for Omaha games this aggro. But they are crazy gamblers and many times the pot size is 100BB.So what hands do you play considering this game is very aggro and you are only buying in for 50BB Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 So what hands do you play considering this game is very aggro and you are only buying in for 50BBA lot of them - WHEN IN POSITION. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 So there are some good games on AP but they are all 1/2 games and I am 100% not rolled for Omaha games this aggro. But they are crazy gamblers and many times the pot size is 100BB.So what hands do you play considering this game is very aggro and you are only buying in for 50BBWith choices of:1) 200bb deep $50pl 2) 100bb deep $100pl3) 50bb deep $200pl.4) 25bb deep $400plI'd go with 1, 2, 4 then 3. /shrugI feel like I'd rather be very deep or very shallow. That way you can either play fully postflop or you can just play shove or fold on the flop. Playing with 20bb is pretty straightforward. Playing with 200bb is more complex, but you don't have to worry about stacks on later streets as much. With 50bbs I think you're going to be faced with a lot more tough turn/river decisions. With 100bb+ you know you can call with a draw, or you can raise/fold. You have options. If you raise preflop and bet flop and turn you aren't going to be overy committed if a bad river comes. With 20bbs you'd be allin by the turn at the latest and with 100bbs you would have plenty more behind.I haven't played PLO in a while though so I imagine Bud or bdc will have more informed opinions. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 fwiw, bundy and I both moved some money to AP, but the games just aren't good enough nor frequent enough to play with any regularity. Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 fwiw, bundy and I both moved some money to AP, but the games just aren't good enough nor frequent enough to play with any regularity.Noted....(or are you just trying to keep the juicy AP action for yourselves...?) Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 We were both back on the major sites within a week. Not enough games going on AP, maybe 2 or 3 at MOST and that's during peak times. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 well that is the issue I am having it only seems that the 1/2 level is the softest game, and they don't run all the time but when they do it is unreal. They tend to run in the afternoons about 2-3pm EST. Link to post Share on other sites
Frez 0 Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 We were both back on the major sites within a week. Not enough games going on AP, maybe 2 or 3 at MOST and that's during peak times.This may change in the future. At the UB Cross Canada Tour I asked one of their guys if UB and AP may merge since they are falling behind in player numbers (they have the smae ownership apparently). He said they are likely to merge the players/tables behind the scenes, but run as separate brands. Combined that should take their traffic up to about where FT is. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 OP, for the 1/2 game on AP, i tend to play EXTREMELY tight preflop and shove or fold postflop, since reading your opponents in that game is damn near impossible for most of the players, and they're willing to go for the gold with bottom two pair most of the time. you could conceivably play a lot of hands preflop, but i tend not to just in an effort to lower my variance at a super crazy game that i beat pretty well anyway.also, position doesn't matter very much in that game, since most of your opponents are playing shove or fold postflop as well. they're just very bad at doing so, lol. Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 This may change in the future. At the UB Cross Canada Tour I asked one of their guys if UB and AP may merge since they are falling behind in player numbers (they have the smae ownership apparently). He said they are likely to merge the players/tables behind the scenes, but run as separate brands. Combined that should take their traffic up to about where FT is.If they keep the merger behind the scenes, could you unknowingly play against yourself at the same table if you happen to be playing on both AP and UB at the same time?It seems to me, if mergers happen, they shouldn't remain "behind closed doors". Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 If they keep the merger behind the scenes, could you unknowingly play against yourself at the same table if you happen to be playing on both AP and UB at the same time?It seems to me, if mergers happen, they shouldn't remain "behind closed doors".LOL at the thought of playing yourself HU and not realising.Wonder what your read would be? Link to post Share on other sites
Moneyball16 0 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 If they keep the merger behind the scenes, could you unknowingly play against yourself at the same table if you happen to be playing on both AP and UB at the same time?It seems to me, if mergers happen, they shouldn't remain "behind closed doors".The merger would not be behind closed doors. We are talking about UB and AP here. They have a long lasting, well deserved reputation of being very open with their customers and treating them with nothing but respect. Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 I think to overcome the ridiculously high variance in PLO you should play as many hands as you can with the biggest stacks possible. Link to post Share on other sites
Frez 0 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 If they keep the merger behind the scenes, could you unknowingly play against yourself at the same table if you happen to be playing on both AP and UB at the same time?It seems to me, if mergers happen, they shouldn't remain "behind closed doors".I've waiting to answer this for two days because I've been trying to figure out if it is a joke question or not. Still haven't, but:No, they won't do a merger in secret "behind closed doors", why would they? In fact I'm sure they would announce it loudly because it would be a huge improvement to double the traffic at their tables. What they will do is start operating as skins on the same network (ala Crytoplogic network with InterPoker, WilliamHill, LittleWoods, PokerPlex and other brand names sharing the same player base, playing on the same tables).So no, you could not play against yourself. On Crypto sites for example, you can log in on more than one skin, but can't sit in at the same table. Link to post Share on other sites
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