DrZoidberg 0 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 blinds are 50/100Hero is 2 behind button with 2580Villian is on my right with 2181 PokerStars (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A , 8 , A , 4 . SB posts a blind of 50. 2 folds, MP1 calls, Hero raises 350 to 450, 4 folds, MP1 calls.pot is T1050Flop: 3 , 2 , T (2 players)MP1 checks, Hero bets 1050, MP1 raises 681 to 1731 and is all-in, Hero callsI've dabbled with PLO8, this is the first full field tourney I've played in, mostly i just play as part of HORSE, but I wanted more experience, I'm pretty sure I played this hand well, I'm mostly a hold 'em player so I see this as a semi bluff, but strong one since i've got the nut low draw and the aces and the wheel for high, with no flush draw. Good?whoops, didn't notice there was a seperate O8 board, my bad Link to post Share on other sites
dingas 0 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Yes, this is pretty standard. Heads up, the nut low draw + an overpair is good enough to get in with pretty much every time. Link to post Share on other sites
Kendren 1 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 BD NFD too, every time. Link to post Share on other sites
AdamC 0 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Okay, let me spell out why the other posters were quick to say go for it.On the low side, you've got 15 soft outs to the nut low (minus the 8 you have), though you have to asume that at least two are gone in your opponent';s hands, and maybe a smatering of 3 more around the table (just to be on the safe side). So count yourself in for 10 reliable outs. On the high side, You're likely up against either trip 10's or a pair of tens, with an outside chance of someone holding a straight draw like a-2 or 4-5 (same one they'd be using for the low). It's kind fo an ourside shot, and chances are, if it does hit, you'll split it anyway, either both hi/lo, or him hi, you lo. Ifg you're up agaisnt a pair of tens, you're alreayd ahead with the aces, and incidentally, your own straight draw. If it's trips, you're drawing pretty thin, but even in the nightmare scenario, where you're opponent has 10-10-a-4, and you lose the hi, and split the lo, you're still puting a 681 call into a 3500+ pot, and clearly getting odds, you'd split about a 1500 low pot, and get the moeny for this aprticular call back. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 you're still puting a 681 call into a 3500+ pot, and clearly getting odds, you'd split about a 1500 low pot, and get the moeny for this aprticular call back.This is somewhat irrelevant. You don't fold any kind of hand for 681 into 3500+. I think you need to take a wider approach with analysis. Look at the whole hand, and the betting that has got us to this point. If we had 999T rainbow here the call or fold of the 681 raise would be the least of our troubles.Preflop we have a premium hand, and we want money in while we have an equity edge. Because of stack sizes it's unlikely we will be folding postflop.The flop is great for our hand for obvious reasons - nut low draw, gutshot and overpair on a dry board; We are happy getting the money in.Nice hand. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 The flop is great for our hand for obvious reasons - nut low draw, gutshot and overpair on a dry board; We are happy getting the money in.Nice hand. bbfidts-fyp Link to post Share on other sites
AdamC 0 Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Simo, I find that very rarely is it irellevant to think through your pot odds and what is likely to happen after you make a potential call. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Simo, I find that very rarely is it irellevant to think through your pot odds and what is likely to happen after you make a potential call.For 681 we are calling with almost anything. The call of 681 is the most obvious and simple decision in this hand, and as such it doesn't merit much analysis. The important parts of this hand are preflop and the first action on the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
DrZoidberg 0 Posted June 1, 2008 Author Share Posted June 1, 2008 -fypOh no, I did win this hand, I was just wondering if i played it correctly. I busted out like 15 minutes after the break though Link to post Share on other sites
AdamC 0 Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 For 681 we are calling with almost anything. The call of 681 is the most obvious and simple decision in this hand, and as such it doesn't merit much analysis.The decision is a simple enough one, I don't question that in the least. I beleive it good practice, though, to always think through the decision no mater how simple, just in case there's something I miss, and also, as a way of staying sharp and well-practiced on the math and thinking involved. Sort of like...checking the reirview mirror before changing lanes, even if and when you're sure the street's empty as of 5 seconds prior. Simple, basic, nothign that will change what you're about to do, but good practice and habit nonetheless. Link to post Share on other sites
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