dscoot 0 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 So you know how everyone seems to talk about how great playing poker in vegas during the wsop is? Everyone flocks in to town, table are filled round the clock. Whenever people seem to talk to me about this they kinda hint how the games are easier during this time. This is my first year out here, Im not sure Im sold on this. Granted the series hasnt started but I have begun to notice a small influx of players which likely will still be getting bigger by the day. I try to grade my table skills for each session, and in the past week or so I have given slightly higher than average grades for my opponents. I mean, if these people are all flocking in to town for the wsop and such, arent they likely poker fans, and students of the game? Maybe I just need to wait till june gets into full swing and I need to head to the Rio and it will be easier. Im wondering if non-wsop times, when all these aspiring serious players arent in town, the games are actually easier. Anyone with good vegas experience care to comment? If u dont have experience but have any ideas about this situation, please feel free to comment just mention that u dont have actual playing hours. Link to post Share on other sites
mx957 0 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Wait till late next week. You'll be amazed. Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 People who talk about cash games being good during the WSOP are talking about bigger games. Really there isn't THAT much poker in Vegas and most of it is small stakes stuff. If you're looking at 10/25 NL and up the games are going to be way better. In part because there aren't a lot of games running at those stakes outside of tournament times.From personal experience I can say that the average 1/2 NL game during the WSOP will be considerably tougher. The "tourists" are people who are avid poker players. Probably still mostly recreational players at the 1/2 2/5 level but competent at the very least. Link to post Share on other sites
SlapStick 0 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Stop distracting yourself with pointless details and play your cards Link to post Share on other sites
dscoot 0 Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 Stop distracting yourself with pointless details and play your cardsStop distracting yourself with pointless responses to my posts Link to post Share on other sites
mx957 0 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Stop distracting yourself with pointless responses to my postsLook, the series hasn't even started. You'll see a ton of bad players show up. They'll mostly show up for the weekends and the $1,500 buy in events (wait, that's what I am going to do....coincidence??).Patience. You'll see what everyone talks about soon. Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 People who talk about cash games being good during the WSOP are talking about bigger games. Really there isn't THAT much poker in Vegas and most of it is small stakes stuff. If you're looking at 10/25 NL and up the games are going to be way better. In part because there aren't a lot of games running at those stakes outside of tournament times.From personal experience I can say that the average 1/2 NL game during the WSOP will be considerably tougher. The "tourists" are people who are avid poker players. Probably still mostly recreational players at the 1/2 2/5 level but competent at the very least.Agree with this more than not, and the idea that the cash games are super easy is a myth.However I will add that the games at the Rio can be a gold mine IF you table select carefully. There were many bad players there in these games the past few years, killing time while friends played events, just wanting to play in that room, etc. but there were also some extremely good players mixed in those games. Be careful and move often if you need to. Sounds simple but most people will not get up and leave a tough game. Weird...Also, the word is out now so to speak and that just attracts even more decent players looking to take advantage.The fish will be there you'll just have to more diligent than in the past to find the right game.ONE WEEK BABY! Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 There are hardly ever any completely incompetent players anymore, live or online. The edges are a lot smaller than they used to be. They'll be plenty of online "students of the game" once the series starts that will be just as bad as your daily "tourist". (I know this because I am one of those people and from being out there two of the last three WSOP's) Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 People don't come to Las Vegas during the WSOP to play 1/2 NL. The people who play those games are here already or would be visiting regardless. The side games that become awesome during the WSOP is 5/10 NL and above and 2/5 to some extent. Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 People don't come to Las Vegas during the WSOP to play 1/2 NL. The people who play those games are here already or would be visiting regardless. The side games that become awesome during the WSOP is 5/10 NL and above and 2/5 to some extent.Well if it's AT the WSOP, they only run 2/5 or higher.I've only played once and it was a mixed bag. Some decent but not great players, and some pretty bad ones. Quite interesting characters though. Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 People don't come to Las Vegas during the WSOP to play 1/2 NL. The people who play those games are here already or would be visiting regardless. The side games that become awesome during the WSOP is 5/10 NL and above and 2/5 to some extent.Last year during the first few days of the ME on average 3 of 10 people at my 1/2 table were ME participants. They didn't come to play 1/2. They came to play the ME. Because of the schedule - multiple days 1's with days off in between - and early bustouts from the tournament a lot of them play 1/2 or 2/5 in their downtime. Link to post Share on other sites
Naked_Cowboy 0 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 The easiest 2/5 table I've ever played at was at the rio on the weekend during the WSOP. At least half of the people at the table were either tilting from just busting out of the $1500 they were already dead money in, or came with a friend, got bored and decided "hey, why not give poker a try". Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Huge fish at one of my tables today talking about playing 2/5 at the Mirage. SOOOOOOOOOOOOO exciting. Link to post Share on other sites
pt special 0 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 also, the games in LA during the series are sick cause all the good players come to vegas for the wsop...so the 5/10 there is just unreal Link to post Share on other sites
mhoward29 0 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 The easiest 2/5 table I've ever played at was at the rio on the weekend during the WSOP. At least half of the people at the table were either tilting from just busting out of the $1500 they were already dead money in, or came with a friend, got bored and decided "hey, why not give poker a try".Bingo. I have always felt that this is what made the games so good. People that bust out of a tourney and then play cash games.Even in my local B&M they run a $100 tourney on Thursdays. They get about 125 players. All the cash games break to make room for tourney, and all the players play the tourney. I dont play the tourney sometimes and put myself first on the list for cash games so I get to play first when the first tourney table busts. Game is soooo good. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 the games are going to be bananasB-A-N-A-N-A-Strust me Link to post Share on other sites
bbgun 0 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 The easiest 2/5 table I've ever played at was at the rio on the weekend during the WSOP. At least half of the people at the table were either tilting from just busting out of the $1500 they were already money in, or came with a friend, got bored and decided "hey, why not give poker a try". "After all, it can't be much different than the home games I've been playing my whole life..." Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 I played a lot of 2/5 NL, 2/5 PLO and 5/10 NL during last years' WSOP. The level of play was much lower than my other trips at those levels. You get a lot of guys who are decent 1/2 NL players who save up a bunch of cash to blow during a special event. Very juicy. Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 the games are going to be bananasB-A-N-A-N-A-Strust me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFqGM5fE3rw Link to post Share on other sites
Naked_Cowboy 0 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 "After all, it can't be much different than the home games I've been playing my whole life..."thank you. Link to post Share on other sites
Socrates 0 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 If you can't average $100 profit even at the 1/2NL tables at the WSOP, you need to recheck your skills. Soft is an understatement when it comes to describig the low limit cash action at the WSOP. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 What do you guys think about games away from the Rio?More scared money? Link to post Share on other sites
StrippersNBlow 0 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 If you can't average $100 profit even at the 1/2NL tables at the WSOP, you need to recheck your skills. Soft is an understatement when it comes to describig the low limit cash action at the WSOP.I'll be playing 30 hour sessions. If I can't average $100 profit, I'm lucky there are lots of tall building around. Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 What do you guys think about games away from the Rio?More scared money?Standard/same. Last year at MGM half the players didn't even know the WSOP was going on. Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 I'll be playing 30 hour sessions. If I can't average $100 profit, I'm lucky there are lots of tall building around.VooDoo lounge is right there atop the Rio for convenience.Great view as you are plunging face down towards the asphalt. Link to post Share on other sites
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