Roo6339 0 Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A. UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 raises, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, MP1 caps, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.Flop: (20.50 SB) 6, 7, T(5 players)Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls, UTG calls.Turn: (12.25 BB) A(4 players)Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets, CO calls, Hero raises, UTG calls, MP1 folds, CO calls.River: (19.25 BB) 8(3 players)Hero bets, UTG folds, CO calls.Final Pot: 21.25 BBStandard? I'm mostly concerned about the flop, but the pot being so huge and having 2 overs + backdoor nut flush draw I'm right to see the turn for one SB right? Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 flop call is stadard with such a huge pot and no one new showing agression.River is intersting to me, as it always is.I wonder if we make more picking off a miss draw bluff.I presuem you were not going to b/f. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 I like pf and flop, obviously.I never used to raise this turn, but I think it was an area where my game was lacking, and still even a weak spot of mine today, although not nearly as much.River is interesting. UTG is almost always on a draw here, usually spades, but sometimes 45, sometimes a gutter+pair (maybe this is results oriented), but will he bluff into 2 others often with a whiff or a worse hand? I dunno, I prefer a bet, I think. Link to post Share on other sites
Roo6339 0 Posted May 18, 2008 Author Share Posted May 18, 2008 I don't think these people would bluff a missed draw often enough. A check/raise on an ace usually stops most people from bluffing the river since they know they're gonna get called. Maybe I'm giving my opponents too much credit. Link to post Share on other sites
RabidTortuga 0 Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Nicely played.MP1 is either a decent player able to lay down a big pocket pair when he's clearly behind (KK, QQ, JJ?) or a spectacular donk. Either way, c/r him light in the future when he has the betting lead and win extra monies. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 great point Roo about why they would not bluff river..I totally missed that you c/r the turn.Ballsy move.Why did you do that instead of lead? Link to post Share on other sites
Roo6339 0 Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Why wouldn't you c/r? You don't think whoever has the lead is gonna keep betting? Link to post Share on other sites
Frez 0 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Why wouldn't you c/r? You don't think whoever has the lead is gonna keep betting?Probably, but not always. You were aggressive preflop, then check/called a middle card flop (which was very correct since you asked). Smells a lot like AK. Then an Ace comes on the turn. That may slow whomever has the lead down if they don't have an ace. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Probably, but not always. You were aggressive preflop, then check/called a middle card flop (which was very correct since you asked). Smells a lot like AK. Then an Ace comes on the turn. That may slow whomever has the lead down if they don't have an ace.One thing is for sure, they're never going to check when you are behind, and will check some portion of the time when you're ahead. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Why wouldn't you c/r? You don't think whoever has the lead is gonna keep betting?I would expect a check quite often 4 handed and when he doesn't, I'd get a bit ill about my plan to c/rAlso, I'd hate to give a fre card to the other players Link to post Share on other sites
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