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Seriously learn the what Irony is. What you provided is not ironic by any stretch at all.
You seem to be a master of the English language. Do you give lessons?i·ron·ic aɪˈrɒnɪk –adjective1. containing or exemplifying irony: an ironic novel; an ironic remark.2. ironical.3. coincidental; unexpectedI know... 10th grade was hard.
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You seem to be a master of the English language. Do you give lessons?i·ron·ic aɪˈrɒnɪk –adjective1. containing or exemplifying irony: an ironic novel; an ironic remark.2. ironical.3. coincidental; unexpectedI know... 10th grade was hard.
I see the hippies have finally won.... now that Irony has officially become a synonym for coincidence, you might as well sell your daughters to the gypsies, because the country is officially going to hell.
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I came down to the breakfast tablefelt like I could dieTried so hard but wasn't able to look you in the eyeFor i'm feeling so much shameyes i have brought disgracei can tell i've soiled my good nameby the look upon your faceWell it seems last night you caught me spankin itNo use denyin it I was really crankin itWell Dry your eyes don't be so sadIf you could just forgive me and talk to me, dadtalk to me dadI didn't hear ya enter, no I didn't hear the doorwith my hand upon my member and my pants upon the floorNow burnt into your brain is an image you dispiselike blood and guts and starvin kids and Stevie Wonder's eyesWell it seems last night you caught me spankin itNo use denyin it I was really crankin itWell Dry your eyes don't be so sadbut I wouldn't use those tissuesThey've already been hadTalk to me dadThe look upon your face made my swollen gland diminishSo I said, "Could ya close the door? I really wanna finish"Another thirty seconds and if all had gone as plannedyou'd have seen your future grandchildren dripping down my handWell it seems last night you caught me spankin itNo use denyin it I was really crankin itWell Dry your eyes don't be so sadJust because it was your bed It's not that badWhen I was only seventeen, you told me it was dirty, soit must be really creepy when your kid is pushin thirtyBut you cannot tell me dad that you have never had a whackAt the thing that hangs below your belt and bumps into your sackWell it seems last night you caught me spankin itNo use denyin it I was really crankin itWell Dry your eyes don't be so sadBut I wouldn't use those tissues they've already been-just because it was your bedit's not that- now daddy daddy please forgive me and talk to me dadtalk to me dad

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I see the hippies have finally won.... now that Irony has officially become a synonym for coincidence, you might as well sell your daughters to the gypsies, because the country is officially going to hell.
We have to change with the times my friend.
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I met him in a swamp down in dagobaWhere it bubbles all the time like a giant carbonated sodaS o d a, sodaI saw the little runt sitting there on a logI asked him his name and in a raspy voice he said yodaY o d a, yodaYo-yo-yo-yo yodaWell, Ive been around, but I aint never seenA guy who looks like a muppet, but hes wrinkled and greenOh, my yodaYo-yo-yo-yo yodaWell, Im not dumb, but I cant understandHow he can lift me in the air just by raising his handOh, my yodaYo-yo-yo-yo yoda yo-yo-yo-yo yodaWell, I left home just a week beforeAnd Ive never ever been a jedi beforeBut obi wan, he set me straight, of courseHe said, go to yoda and hell show you the forceWell Im not the kind that would argue with benSo it looks like Im gonna start all over againWith my yodaYo-yo-yo-yo yoda yo-yo-yo-yo yoda
And here I was thinking it was Lola all along...how ironic
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You seem to be a master of the English language. Do you give lessons?i·ron·ic aɪˈrɒnɪk –adjective1. containing or exemplifying irony: an ironic novel; an ironic remark.2. ironical.3. coincidental; unexpectedI know... 10th grade was hard.
yea right. what the hell kind of failure dictionary did you get this crap from? the first two definitions define the word with different forms of the word! what the f is that!? and the third one is wrong. seriously where is this from? this cant be a real dictionary.
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yea right. what the hell kind of failure dictionary did you get this crap from? the first two definitions define the word with different forms of the word! what the f is that!? and the third one is wrong. seriously where is this from? this cant be a real dictionary.
Well, I hate to break it to you, but my first post on this issue was ironic ( in the traditional sense).That dictionary is not wrong. I would wager many, many more people use Ironic as a synonym of coincidental than use the traditional meaning. Those millions of people aren't wrong. The meaning of the word has evolved, language is fluid, not static. Deal with it.
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Well, I hate to break it to you, but my first post on this issue was ironic ( in the traditional sense).That dictionary is not wrong. I would wager many, many more people use Ironic as a synonym of coincidental than use the traditional meaning. Those millions of people aren't wrong. The meaning of the word has evolved, language is fluid, not static. Deal with it.
dictionary.com has the right definition. id be willing to bet a lot of others still do. and seriously, the first two defenitions are irony = something ironic. what is that?
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dictionary.com has the right definition. id be willing to bet a lot of others still do. and seriously, the first two defenitions are irony = something ironic. what is that?
How ironic!http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ironic
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So having to go through a detour is Ironic? Is it ironic to run into someone you know in a different city? That's just silly, maybe I should change with the times but it seems like the word will just lose all meaning if you allow it to be used for anything that is a coincidence.

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dictionary.com has the right definition. id be willing to bet a lot of others still do. and seriously, the first two defenitions are irony = something ironic. what is that?
again, it's not the "right" definition... there is nothing objective about the definition of words.. God doesn't hand down the Oxford English Dictionary from the clouds. Words mean what people think they mean, and if millions of people use Irony to mean coincidence, that's what it means. Makers of dictionaries can chose to be pedantic and ignore the way people actually use the language, holding onto tradition like a vise. Or they can give definitions that reflect the ways, all the ways, that a word is actually used. I agree with you that the first two definitions that the dictionary listed are worthless.
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So having to go through a detour is Ironic? Is it ironic to run into someone you know in a different city? That's just silly, maybe I should change with the times but it seems like the word will just lose all meaning if you allow it to be used for anything that is a coincidence.
The sky is falling, the sky is falling...
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Actually should have done some research before I postedThe American Heritage Dictionary’s usage panel found it unacceptable to use the word ironic to describe mere unfortunate coincidences or surprising disappointments that “suggest no particular lessons about human vanity or folly.” This definition still allows the above usage but excludes examples like Alanis Morissette’s “It's a traffic jam when you're already late” for a meeting, unless perhaps the topic of the meeting were traffic congestion, not something implied by the lyrics of “Ironic”. It is commonly stated that the song "Ironic" contains no actual examples of irony. It is sometimes suggested that Morissette intentionally misuses the term ironic in every example in the song "Ironic" for ironic effect.

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Irony is very easy to define:It's rain on your wedding day,It's good advice that you just can't take,It's a free ride when you're already there,It's a traffic jam when you're already late,It's 10000 spoons when all you need is a fork.

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Actually should have done some research before I postedThe American Heritage Dictionary’s usage panel found it unacceptable to use the word ironic to describe mere unfortunate coincidences or surprising disappointments that “suggest no particular lessons about human vanity or folly.” This definition still allows the above usage but excludes examples like Alanis Morissette’s “It's a traffic jam when you're already late” for a meeting, unless perhaps the topic of the meeting were traffic congestion, not something implied by the lyrics of “Ironic”. It is commonly stated that the song "Ironic" contains no actual examples of irony. It is sometimes suggested that Morissette intentionally misuses the term ironic in every example in the song "Ironic" for ironic effect.
Damn you! Your trigger finger must be a micro-second faster than mine!
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Getting back on topic with the use of "Ironic", may or may not be ironic, but it makes me smile.on a complete other note, I always thought that guys name was like Bobby with Ani, as in the name, like Ani DiFranco. I just realized, while reading this thread, that it was Bobby with an I, and that made me chuckle.

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The sky is falling, the sky is falling...
Oh please don't give me that. Word usage changes yes but this is like millions of people changing the use of the word "sarcastic". If people started using the word sarcastic to mean anything that was said in a derogatory manner, regardless of it was what is the accepted use of the word sarcastic now, you would just say "language changes get with it". Language means something, words mean something. To give such a broad definition to "ironic" does a disservice to actual forms of irony. Just because people are saying it doesn't make it right.
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I see the hippies have finally won.... now that Irony has officially become a synonym for coincidence, you might as well sell your daughters to the gypsies, because the country is officially going to hell.
What's ironic about that is that the very word that used to not mean something now means precisely the thing it didn't used to mean. O', the irony.
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Oh please don't give me that. Word usage changes yes but this is like millions of people changing the use of the word "sarcastic". If people started using the word sarcastic to mean anything that was said in a derogatory manner, regardless of it was what is the accepted use of the word sarcastic now, you would just say "language changes get with it". Language means something, words mean something. To give such a broad definition to "ironic" does a disservice to actual forms of irony. Just because people are saying it doesn't make it right.
That is exactly wrong. Because people use it that way, makes it right. Again, there is no absolute, static, objective "Right and wrong" when it comes to language, and the definition of words. There is only tradition and actual usage. What use is a dictionary that doesn't describe the definitions that people actually use?And people aren't using "ironic" in some broad, nebulous way that you are trying to claim. They are using it as a specific synonym of coincidence.
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Unsurprisingly, I agree with you, Mac, and assume you agree with what I'll add, which is simply that I find the neodefinition to be stupid, and confession, and don't use it, but feel a dictionary's job is to describe the languge, not manipulate it.

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I don't use the neodefinition either, unless I use it ironically. But that isn't the point, really. All we are really talking about is adding an extra entry into a definition. You'll have the A) B) and C) entries, and then you'll have D) Coincidental. It shouldn't be that revolutionary.I always thought you were a prescriptivist when it came to language, Dutch. Glad to see the nihilism is creeping into your linguistics.

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I always thought you were a prescriptivist when it came to language, Dutch. Glad to see the nihilism is creeping into your linguistics.
I resemble a prescriptivist, because in practice I tend to be pretty staunchy and hold people who speak such ways in a pretty low regard, but in theory, it's hard to make a case that anyone but English-speakers control English. I think in the past I've professed to be pretty in between, because I didn't entirely understand the concepts well enough to make the distinction between speaking the way I do and believe that speaking such a way is correct or incorrect, or even right or wrong.
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HeroWhen the house fell asleep there was always a lightand it fell from the page to the eyes of an American boyin a storybook land I could dream what I readwhen it went to my head I'd seeI wanna be a herochorus:Heroit's a nice-boy notion that the real world's gonna destroyyou knowit's a Marvel comicbook Saturday matinee fairytale, boyGrowing older you'll find that illusions are broughtand the idol you thought you'd be was just another zeroI wanna be a heroHeroes died when the squealers bought 'em offdied when the dealers got 'em offwelcome to the "in it for the money as an idol" showwhen they ain't as big as lifewhen they ditch their second wifewhere's the boy to go?gotta be a hero(chorus)When the house fell asleepfrom a book I was led to a light that I never knewI wanna be your heroand he spoke to my heart from the moment I prayedhere's a pattern I made for youI wanna be your hero

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