cemo76 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNB073v3Iec...feature=relatedCheck out minute 1:09. Kenny Tran is so confident he is making a HERO call.Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites
bbgun 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 He confidently called because he put him on "pockey sevens"... Link to post Share on other sites
freak2304 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 He had a read. Obv. it was a wrong one, but I appreciate a guy who goes w/ his reads, especially in a situation like that. Link to post Share on other sites
Potsie P 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Tran's reaction was great. But anyone watching should've known the villain had A8c, obv. Link to post Share on other sites
bbgun 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Just for the record, I fold pre-flop, post-flop, open fold the turn and insta muck the river before Kalmar bets.Sincerely,Jen T Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Kalmar didnt have calling odds at 2.5:1, hits it, Tran "retroactively" gives him the implied odds to draw by calling (Trans thought balloon: "how can he have it, he didnt have the odds to call") . Poker's golden paradox, as tourney strat forum readers (plus Actuary, who knows what he does or doesnt read and when) have come to know it. Link to post Share on other sites
gtycoon 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 It's easy for us to second guess every poker play when we can see the hole cards but I probably would have folded there and saved my chips for a better spot to get them all in. Tran deserves to get beat like that sometimes though ;-) Link to post Share on other sites
freak2304 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 ....plus, I doubt he got the nickname "sick call kenny" just for the RIGHT calls he made. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Kalmar didnt have calling odds at 2.5:1Actually he did. Link to post Share on other sites
MyPlayIsRAB 0 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 kenny tran is sick, he knew he had the 7or 8 for a gutterball but couldnt figure him for floosh also Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 LOL: He's got 9 million! No he got 0 million now. hahahaMark Link to post Share on other sites
cemo76 0 Posted April 29, 2008 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 I think it is an easy lay down! I mean all he had was a top pair?Could and should of waited for a better spot!Only Daniel can make calls like that and be RIGHT! lol Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 I think it is an easy lay down! I mean all he had was a top pair?Could and should of waited for a better spot!Only Daniel can make calls like that and be Wrong! lolFYPMeh, you really have to take into consider all of the other hands those two played. They obviously had a history, and that played into Kenny's call. As for the hand in question... misread... but at least he has the balls to put his tourney on the line making calls like that. Definitely not a player I'd want at my table in the WSOP ME. Link to post Share on other sites
no not baxter 0 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 loooooooool hevad khan is ridic Link to post Share on other sites
no not baxter 0 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 talk about sick callsrahmes 88 call just plain ridic Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 talk about sick callsrahmes 88 call just plain ridicIs it just me or is he "THE donk" who made the final table? I never saw him really make a decent play besides that.And the hand where he has KK vs Yang's A5, w/ A x x board.. what was he thinking, speaking up? Link to post Share on other sites
Doug 0 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 who would I rather be let me see. OP, Kalmar donk or kenny tran. Link to post Share on other sites
pocket3s 0 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 It's not the call that we should be talking about. Kalmar sold it, maybe Tran should have read it. Not one moments hesitation, Allin just like every donk does when he misses. Stands up and everything. Tran bought it hook, line and sinker. Link to post Share on other sites
pt special 0 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 there were some pretty hilarious photo shops of this on 2plus2 Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Kalmar didnt have calling odds at 2.5:1 Actually he did.Kalmar is calling 1.3m to win 3.2m (2.46-1). Assuming he gets Kenny's stack when he hits (he probably won't too often), he can get up to 5.92-1 implied. With 15 outs going to the river, Kalmar is 2.07-1 to hit one. Kalmar has to discount his outs to 13 before he gets just below an unreasonable call...and even then...he can expect to pick up at least some chips on the river some of the time.Here's the issue with Tran's read as I see it...why would the guy ever play 77 that way? You're not going to give him credit for calling to the river with a flush draw, but you're going to assume he's calling with a gutter and underpair? And you're then assuming he, being an amateur, will turn that into a bluff...against a guy that was probably notorious for calling light by that point? The only hand that Tran should think he could beat would maybe be something like QJ...a draw that didn't come in that's representing the other draw.I want to give Kalmar some credit for acting as he apparently sold Tran, but standing up is usually indicative of strength. Link to post Share on other sites
bigcoled 1 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 can't really judge his play or reads much, until you've had his type of success.... Link to post Share on other sites
keith crime 8 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 I didn't real his all in as an I missed I'll try to buy itit was more like the guys I play who get an erection when they hit their draw and immediate push alll in without ever thinking about making a bet that will be calledbut then again I could see the cardsbut i guess if you are going to call you should call confidently - its a free chance to look like a genius i suppose Link to post Share on other sites
keith crime 8 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 can't really judge his play or reads much, until you've had his type of success....hell yeah we can - that's all the joy us losing players get out of watching poker on tv Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Kalmar didnt have calling odds at 2.5:1, hits it, Tran "retroactively" gives him the implied odds to draw by calling (Trans thought balloon: "how can he have it, he didnt have the odds to call") . Poker's golden paradox, as tourney strat forum readers (plus Actuary, who knows what he does or doesnt read and when) have come to know it.Gold!Oh, and I thought it was a semi-ridiculous call.And Hevad Khan is a ****ing goofball. He probably has a fart fetish. Link to post Share on other sites
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