$100 Max Button V Blind

[tskillz187 0]

Button is running at 29/19 this session over 21 hands, but over all my hands (638) button 19/8/1.5I don't think we have any history.Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (5 handed) Absolute-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Button ($186.45)Hero ($102.15)BB ($102.50)UTG ($49.55)MP ($21.90)Preflop: Hero is SB with J, T. 2 folds, Button raises to $3, Hero raises to $15.5, 1 fold, Button calls $12.50.Flop: ($32) Q, J, 6(2 players)Hero???

[simo_8ball 0]

I think your preflop raise is way too big. Usually pot plus a couple of bb is good. I think $10 or $11 would be best here.On the flop I honestly take different lines depending on mood, feel and tilt.I can bet/call, bet/fold, check/call, check/fold, or check/raise. I hope that helps.(I actually don't mind check/folding tbh)

[tskillz187 0]

I have some kind of glitch, where from my SB I cannot make 50 cents more. I usually go 5x the pf bet when OOP in these spots. I don't think it's a leak, but you can persuade me. Ideally I'd put it to $15 here.

[simo_8ball 0]

I have some kind of glitch, where from my SB I cannot make 50 cents more. I usually go 5x the pf bet when OOP in these spots. I don't think it's a leak, but you can persuade me. Ideally I'd put it to $15 here.

I think it's a leak, and this hand is a perfect example. The pot size with 100bbs starting stacks is just so awkward when you raise this big.If you c/bet ~$24 and he shoves, you'll have ~$65 left and a pot of ~$143, which I think would be sickening to have to fold. I'd probably end up calling a shove and then throwing up when he has AdQc.Suppose you reraise to $10. The pot is then ~$20 on the flop and you both have $92 left. That's easily enough to bet/fold, check/call, do whatever.I think it's important to be aware of postflop pot size and potential maneuverability, and by reraising so big preflop you've put yourself into a tough spot. Big reraises are fine if the situation it creates is positive and in your favour. If you had AK preflop and villain had $40 your reraise would be fine. Then you could open shove any flop. If you both had $150 preflop I think your raise size would be fine. Then you would still have a lot of decent options.Here, you're left picking the least worst option.Oh, and you're turning a good hand into a complete bluff. You're folding to a shove preflop, and you have pretty large reverse implied odds if the flop comes Jxx or Txx.

[tskillz187 0]

I really hate the idea of reraising small (to $10) pf here. He's literally calling me with any 2, and now I'm playing OOP with J high. I think reraising bigger is better, he has to have a better hand to call me with, so I'm getting lots of folds, plus it puts him in a weird spot. It's tough to call $15 here with $100 effective stacks. And his reraise is going to commit his stack, which is perfect for when I do have a hand. I can't imagine ever reraising here to less than $12. I wouldn't mind other opinions on the matter on pf, or the rest of the way.

[TravisG 0]

I really hate the idea of reraising small (to $10) pf here. He's literally calling me with any 2, and now I'm playing OOP with J high. I think reraising bigger is better, he has to have a better hand to call me with, so I'm getting lots of folds, plus it puts him in a weird spot. It's tough to call $15 here with $100 effective stacks. And his reraise is going to commit his stack, which is perfect for when I do have a hand. I can't imagine ever reraising here to less than $12. I wouldn't mind other opinions on the matter on pf, or the rest of the way.

maybe $10, but if you make it 12, everything that folds $15 folds $11 and $12 too, and everything that calls $11 and $12 is gonig to call $15 too. all you do with that is bloating the pot against better hands out of position. as played i bet about 21 and muck to a shove (you get shoved by AQ /AK with a d, KQ with a d (probably without a d too) JJ/ slowplayed QQ /KK /AA (with or without d), flushes and some odd hands that called pf too, in any way you're drawing very thin and the pot odds given to you don't make it good enough to call)

[simo_8ball 0]

At $50max my standard blind reraise for a $1.75 open is ~$6. $7 at most. For a $1.5 open I think $6 is plenty. I do 3-bet more than most though.(actually I miscalculated in my first post - I agree $10 is too light - $12 is fine though).The ideal exploitive strategy is to reraise small with big hands to get action and to reraise big with weak hands/draws to discourage action.Because that's transparent, we opt to do one of two things - we reraise big with everything, or we reraise small with everything. They have their own ups and downs.Reraising everything bigger means bluffs are more expensive, and you don't get action as often with big hands. On the plus side, your bluffs are more often successful, and when you do get action with your big hands you're going to win more.Reraising everything smaller means bluffs are successful less often, and you win smaller pots when you get action with big hands. On the plus side, you can bluff cheaper and more often, and you get action more often with big hands.I prefer the latter. It means you can take advantage of more situations.The problem as I see it is exactly what you alluded to. It's so hard for him to call $15.5 here without a pretty huge hand. That means you're turning a good hand into a bluff. I'd prefer to reraise this big with a small pair, because then you know how to play on almost any flop. You can c/bet and be done without a set. With JTs you're almost dreading hitting top pair.He can't even think about calling with a small pair, he can't call with suited connectors, he can't call with KQ, or AJ. It's a really easy decision for him, and against your range he's making a good decision.I want him to incorrectly keep 66/77 in his range. I want him to at least think about calling the 3-bet with A9s and with QJs. I think it's a mistake for him to do that against me (and my range).I don't think he makes many mistakes against a bigger raise. I think he quite a few mistakes against a smaller raise.

[mtdesmoines 3]

Button is running at 29/19 this session over 21 hands, but over all my hands (638) button 19/8/1.5Preflop: Hero is SB with J, T. 2 folds, Button raises to $3, Hero raises to $15.5, 1 fold, Button calls $12.50.Flop: ($32) Q, J, 6(2 players)Hero???

Wow. I think this is a good way to get killed over time. Don't get me wrong, you catch me doing some of the same shit. But I think you need more chips behind. But I just don't think you're deep enough for this move. When the button calls the reraise, I think you have to give him credit. Your only realistic options here are shove/fold. You're drawing very slim against button's range if button has over diamond, over pair, w/e.

[Naismith 0]

I really think you're best off just c/f or b/f if you really want to throw more money away.

[tskillz187 0]

I really think you're best off just c/f or b/f if you really want to throw more money away.

Change of heart? Or want to be Jordan?

[Acid_Knight 2]

I agree with Simo about raise size being bad. You have to be winning the pot much more frequently preflop with this size of raise to offset the times where you're called and have to play OOP with trashy hands. The points he made about c-betting and then the pot odds to call the shove are very relevant.I am really not sure what I'd do. c/f doesn't seem horrible, but neither does bet/call, so I don't think I'm much help.

[Sheiky 0]

I check/fold.Being OOP, i think it's just hellishly hard to continue with the hand given that he could shove just as easily when we're ahead to a naked Ad or when we're crushed by a Q/better J, and i think we get it in behind a hell of a lot if we bet call.

[tskillz187 0]

Yeah I didn't really know what to do, the Naismith inside of me yelled for check/shove. And so I did.

[mtdesmoines 3]

Yeah I didn't really know what to do, the Naismith inside of me yelled for check/shove. And so I did.

LOLBROKE

[Naismith 0]

Touche!Actually, I told Tim that I would've check-raised all in, too. I love check-raising all in, though.

[tskillz187 0]

Oh the results were me getting snap called by AxKd. It was pretty much my best case scenario with the snap call scenario and I'm still a decent dog. Thus thread created.Edit: Turn A river diamond.

[CobaltBlue 662]

The simple answer...Fold pre-flop.I'm not really keen on the 3-betting suited connectors phenomenon...particularly here. You're bloating pots with speculative hands and turning them into bluffs. I'd prefer you did this with absolute trash. When you do choose to re-raise, I'm with everyone else...re-raise smaller. When you do that, check/shove becomes much more viable if he's lagtarded.