CobaltBlue 662 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Bodog 5/10 NLHE (5-handed)Cobalt $1248BB $2233Cobalt is Button w/ . BB has 3-bet me quite regularly, and I've either folded pre-flop or folded the flop. I consider him to be somewhat donkish, stubborn and loose.Pre-flop:2 folds, Cobalt raises to $35, 1 fold, BB re-raises to $110, Cobalt re-re-raises to $290, BB callsFlop ($605): :D (2 players)BB goes all-in for $1934, Cobalt ?(I have $985 left.) Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 I hate ever giving credit to people in a spot like this. If he has any kind of real hand, wouldn't he expect a bet from you in a 4 bet pot >90% of the time on a board this draw heavy? I think if he's got anything that beats QT that he goes for a CRAI here. I'm always shocked to see JJ and TT and crap turned up here.I guess that means that I'd call. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 I think this is a call, but it's really close, on a rainbow board i'd probably be swayed towards fold. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 donkish, stubborn, and loose i call!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 donkish, stubborn, and loose i call!!!!!!!!!!!!!I CALL I CALL I CALL I CALL. ANYTHING YOU BET I CALL. Link to post Share on other sites
IBFT 0 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 I CALL, I SAID I CALL. I CALL, PUT IT IN. I CALL IT. WHATEVER YOU BET I CALL. I WANT TO SEE THE 150,000. I CALL. I SAID I CALL. I SAID IT, PHIL, I CALL.Oh, YOU PUT THE MONEY IN? I FOLD.(no, wait, i call, srsly) Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Bodog 5/10 NLHE (5-handed)Cobalt $1248BB $2233Cobalt is Button w/ . BB has 3-bet me quite regularly, and I've either folded pre-flop or folded the flop. I consider him to be somewhat donkish, stubborn and loose.Pre-flop:2 folds, Cobalt raises to $35, 1 fold, BB re-raises to $110, Cobalt re-re-raises to $290, BB callsFlop ($605): :D (2 players)BB goes all-in for $1934, Cobalt ?(I have $985 left.)LOL ... I'm so bad. I fold this. Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 tp, 4bet pot, call.if he has AQ or something stupid like that just laugh it off.wouldn't be surprised to see mostly KJdd, JT, KTdd type chit.- Jordan Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 Looking like there's some consensus. Link to post Share on other sites
mikeysong 0 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 THIS ISNT EVEN A REAL HAND TO POST WTFSNAPCALL Link to post Share on other sites
MikeBauer26 0 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I'm with MTdesmoines here and fold.I think with AA and KK viallain would have easily come over the top pre flop.So I don't think that's a possibiltyThe call makes me think of AK or AQ, AJs JJ, QQ and KQ and JQ.I think he would checkraise here with a draw, no?So probably all hands with at least one "Q" would shove on a draw heavy flop (being stubborn, putting you on AK and refusing to belive you have an overpair)And we are behind and can beat only bluffs.What can we think villain thinks we have?Is he trying to make us fold AK or AJ here?Please please please please say that people at these stakes just stop pushing AK all in when they missed the flop.He's not a shortstack... that's for sure... Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 LOL ... I'm so bad. I fold this.It's not horrible to fold, but think about these things:1. His play makes little sense2. It is a 4 bet pot3. We have top pair. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 This looks an awful lot like "no ace no king I shove"call and get 2 outed plz Link to post Share on other sites
cwik 0 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 yeah, AA/KK are probably 5bet shoving pf or check/shoving the flop. I would say AQ is in his range, but would be pretty dumb, as you can easily have AA-QQ here. I think I tend to agree that this looks like a flush draw. I think one of the rules of 4betting light, is you have to go with it. It is a rule Marchant. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I hate ever giving credit to people in a spot like this. If he has any kind of real hand, wouldn't he expect a bet from you in a 4 bet pot >90% of the time on a board this draw heavy?Hmmm. Hmmmmmmm. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 THIS ISNT EVEN A REAL HAND TO POST WTFSNAPCALLLOL It's not horrible to fold, but think about these things:1. His play makes little sense2. It is a 4 bet pot3. We have top pair.I think these are really in reverse order of importance, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 I called. He had KK. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't taking crazy pills. (I think a call is fine over the long run...just wrong in this particular case.)To make things "fun" from a results point-of-view...Turn T...River J. Link to post Share on other sites
shinzilla 0 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Yeah, a call is definitely a +EV play in this spot. You played this fine... very strange play on his part. Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 lol his play is stupid unless he was doing some hardcore leveling and you guys have a lot of 4bet pot history, which i doubt. Link to post Share on other sites
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