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I find myself running into this situation and im not real sure what i should doI will have a hand like QQAJ and the board will come something like Q87 with two diamonds i will raise and two other ppl will put all the money in and i will call and lose when the draw hits.should i be folding when something like a multi way all in occurs or do i just have to call and hope my oponents dont hit?hope this post isnt too confusing

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I find myself running into this situation and im not real sure what i should doI will have a hand like QQAJ and the board will come something like Q87 with two diamonds i will raise and two other ppl will put all the money in and i will call and lose when the draw hits.should i be folding when something like a multi way all in occurs or do i just have to call and hope my oponents dont hit?hope this post isnt too confusing
So you're asking if you should fold when you're the favorite?
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I don't know about anyone else, but I enjoy getting my money in 3-ways as a 50% favourite.http://twodimes.net/h/?z=4509400pokenum -o qs qc as jc - 9h tc td jh - ad kh 2d 5c -- qh 7d 8d Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing 8d 7d Qhcards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EVAs Qs Qc Jc 345 51.80 317 47.60 4 0.60 0.521Tc Td Jh 9h 149 22.37 513 77.03 4 0.60 0.2275c Ad 2d Kh 168 25.23 498 74.77 0 0.00 0.252(assuming one guy with the middle straight/wrap and the other with a flush)You'll win half the time in a 3 way pot. Good enough, over the long term

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Never, ever fold top set when it's the nuts. Doesn't matter if it's heads up or multiway.The only time to fold the nuts in PLO is with the nut straight on a drawy board with deep stacks and villain(s) who are betting like you are being freerolled.

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You should only fold the nuts if it's a straight. On a board with a flush draw. And multiple higher straight draws. And you have no redraw. And there are several people betting/raising.Other than that, you generally don't fold the nuts.

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For example , 8765ds without any hearts (Because obv ds hands never flop a flush draw) on a T96 flop with two hearts. There is a bet and a raise before you. Easy muck IMO.

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Heads-up a set is only a dog to a 16+ card draw. With more than one villain you're in better shape because the chances are increased that their draws overlap with one another (assuming they're both on a draw).

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FWIW, I've played over 200K hands on Stars in the last year, and I'm not sure if I can remember ever folding the nut straight. I folded quads once when I was against a straight flush but I still haven't found a spot where the nut straight wasn't worth at least a call.Oh, and to OP, this site might be for you:http://www.imawhinylittlebitchwhocanthandlevariance.com

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You have to understand a 50% favorite when you only put 33% of the chips in will only win 50% of the time, not 100%. It's a good play, and that's what you have to go with.

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I think that we could come up with a theoretical situation where it would be correct to fold top set when it is the nuts. For example, if two short-stacked opponents were all-in with undersets to your set (meaning your full-house outs are dead), and a deep-stacked opponent pushed with a monster flush+wrap draw. But obviously, this situation has no practical relevance.

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