BigDMcGee 3,353 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Pulp fiction is in my top five movies ever, and it would be almost impossible to move it out. It meant too much to me, in my development as a film fan ( and a fan of art in general). Link to post Share on other sites
Essay21 2,385 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 it was really good and very funny. the violence was pornographic and amazing. but its true what they say, black people talk all movie long and have no sense of volume. the movie and the people in the theater were combining to make me feel very racist. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,353 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I wish I would have seen it in a black theatre, but no such place exists in Lincoln. However, I did get to see a bunch of elderly white people be horrified, so that was almost as good Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskers 680 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Spike Lee: "American Slavery Was Not A Sergio Leone Spaghetti Western. It Was A Holocaust." Note: Spike Lee hasn't seen the movie. Nor does he plan on it because it's "disrespectful to my ancestors." http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/25/spike-lee-goes-after-django-unchained/ Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,353 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 yeah, I heard about that, it's a really stupid criticism. Tarantino doesn't glamorize or trivialize slavery at all. I think he might just be mad because nigg3r is used about 100 times in the movie. Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskers 680 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I think almost any criticism of a movie that you haven't seen is stupid. I mean, it might turn out to be valid, but you should still see it before voicing your opinion. There seems to be a lot of that going around with Zero Dark Thirty and torture. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 “You know Spike, he’ll let you have it whether it’s good, bad or ugly,” Mr. Foxx told the magazine. Badoomching Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,353 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 You know how Tarantino movies have really iconic sections to his movies? how different parts can almost seem like they were directed by a different director, like miniature movies almost? Kill Bill was most famously like this, but all his movies have that sort of episodic nature ( except Jackie Brown). Well, this movie was more like Jackie Brown. In many ways, it was one of his most subdued movies. Which is crazy to say, given some of the scenes in it, but it's paced very slowly, meandering like a Spagetti Westerns slowly build to the climax Link to post Share on other sites
Iphonenkinder 558 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Silver Linings Playbook I liked it, I feel like Cooper, Lawrence, and DeNiro all were in the moment and not hamming it on screen. (This is a big accomplishment for the guys.) I am surprised at how little I reacted to the romantic relationship. I really liked and responded to the scenes with Cooper and Lawrence just trying to scrape together their lives and middle through. I felt like I knew these characters, and I didn't necessarily think a bfe was what they needed. By the by, does Jennifer Lawrence really look like that all the time? Her body is amazing. She's good looking, but her face has some tough angles. I'm not totally sold on her hair color (too dark) but the rest of it... Let me put it this way, I found her so charismatic and good looking, I was incredulous she would end up with Bradley Cooper. Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskers 680 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I think he might just be mad because nigg3r is used about 100 times in the movie. QT: Well, you know if you're going to make a movie about slavery and are taking a 21st-century viewer and putting them in that time period, you're going to hear some things that are going to be ugly, and you're going see some things that are going be ugly. That's just part and parcel of dealing truthfully with this story, with this environment, with this land. Personally, I find [Spike Lee's criticism] ridiculous. Because it would be one thing if people are out there saying, "You use it much more excessively in this movie than it was used in 1858 in Mississippi." Well, nobody's saying that. And if you're not saying that, you're simply saying I should be lying. I should be watering it down. I should be making it more easy to digest. Ebert Roeper: "I think Tarantino's script deliberately overuses the word to remind us of how it was originally used in this country. It wasn't an affectionate term used by one black man to describe a friend; it wasn't part of a rhyming scheme in a hip-hop song. It was a word the white man spat out to describe human beings he kept in shackles because he owned them, just like he owned his land and his horses. The constant use of the term here is a jolting reminder of why it’s such an obscenity." Link to post Share on other sites
Theraflu 1,035 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 That quote is actually from Roeper. Ebert's still too sickly to be reviewing anything, except Zero Dark Thirty it seems. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,755 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I'm sad that Ebert's going to die. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,353 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Every man dies, Brv. Not every man really lives 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Iphonenkinder 558 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I don't think what Spike Lee said was so terrible. There are a lot of movies that I haven't seen, won't see, and will disparage freely. Michael Bay, Oliver Stone, McG--you are all hackmeisters of the most mediocre order. Spike Lee has made a movie a year for most of his professional career. The guy knows what it is to work in the studio system, and how to get an indie made. If he wants to criticize another director (one who's established, and loves a good slap fight) I say he's earned it. [i will see Django.] Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskers 680 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I don't think what Spike Lee said was so terrible. There are a lot of movies that I haven't seen, won't see, and will disparage freely. Michael Bay, Oliver Stone, McG--you are all hackmeisters of the most mediocre order. Spike Lee has made a movie a year for most of his professional career. The guy knows what it is to work in the studio system, and how to get an indie made. If he wants to criticize another director (one who's established, and loves a good slap fight) I say he's earned it. [i will see Django.] How do you criticize the way someone handles something when you don't see how they handled it? Does Spike Lee simply feel that there shouldn't be any movies that deal with slavery? I'd care a lot more about what Spike Lee has to say about the movie if he could point to specific examples of why it is disrespectful. And actually, I would like to hear Spike Lee's critique of the movie and the subject matter, but not if he's doing so blindly. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,353 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 If you want to say that Bay sucks that's fine, he has a long history of sucking. You don't need to see every movie he's ever made to know that his next one is likely not worth bothering to watch. BUt if you want to say you don't care for the stereotypical way Bay portrays the Japanese in Pearl Harbor, and you haven't seen that movie, I would think your opinion on that subject has very little value. Link to post Share on other sites
Theraflu 1,035 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I don't know, I think his next one is right up your alley. Link to post Share on other sites
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BigDMcGee 3,353 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I don't see vin diesel listed anywhere in the imdb. Pass. Link to post Share on other sites
Theraflu 1,035 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I was hoping Wahlberg/The Rock were close to an acceptable substitute. I should have known better. Link to post Share on other sites
Iphonenkinder 558 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 How do you criticize the way someone handles something when you don't see how they handled it? Does Spike Lee simply feel that there shouldn't be any movies that deal with slavery? I'd care a lot more about what Spike Lee has to say about the movie if he could point to specific examples of why it is disrespectful. And actually, I would like to hear Spike Lee's critique of the movie and the subject matter, but not if he's doing so blindly. Imma jerk. I will not see an Adam Sandler wacky twins cross dressing comedy. I will tell you how stupid, like makes my bones weary stupid, the man in ladies clothing premise is. I will not see a movie which has a fat suit as a plot device. I will absolutely tell you how stupid and offensive those movies are. I'm not alone, right? I think a guy like Spike Lee is more qualified to give an uninformed opinion than other people. He knows more about filmmaking and cinematic messages than some dolt on a talking heads cable show. Spike Lee has so much material, if you want to know what he thinks about slavery, and race, and gender dynamics--you can track his thought processes over the years. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,353 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I think a guy like Spike Lee is more qualified to give an uninformed opinion than other people. Yeah, I don't think there's anything that qualifies a person to give an uninformed opinion. At least one that I'll take seriously. Link to post Share on other sites
frautotenkinder 1,025 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I saw Zero Dark Thirty yesterday. It's an amazing movie, I really loved it. I am so surprised that two war movies are in my top of the year (the other is Argo, and I'm still thinking about Beasts of the Southern Wild, with Beauty is Embarrassing). The movie is visceral and energizing. It didn't slow down for the audience (everyone in the story is operating at a high level in their careers. There is not stupidass intern character [stand in for Learned Helpless Audience] who needs names, concepts, motivations explained. I want to see it one more time on the big screen, and then again on blu ray--with the subtitles turned on. I think that will make it easier for me to follow all of the names that are mentioned. The Pain and Gain trailer was shown before the movie--that reminds me of the West Wing bit. CJ Cregg and Annabeth Schott are doing a walk&talk. CJ looks at Annabeth and asks her if she's amazed they are the same species (referring to the height difference.) That's how I feel about Pain and Gain and Zero Dark Thirty--amazed they are in the same medium, the same art form, that they are both movies. I also saw the trailer for Broken City (with Mark Wahlburg, Catherine Zeta Jones, and Russell Crowe). Holy hell, I'm impressed they wedged three of the hammiest actors around into the same frame. I don't know when it happened, but Russell Crowe actively repels me. His voice, his face--I just don't want to look at him on the screen. I usually separate fact and fiction, people whose work I admire from their personality traits. (Like if I only saw movies with people I like off screen, it would be a Guillermo del Toro film fest.) Link to post Share on other sites
frautotenkinder 1,025 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 If you want to say that Bay sucks that's fine, he has a long history of sucking. You don't need to see every movie he's ever made to know that his next one is likely not worth bothering to watch. BUt if you want to say you don't care for the stereotypical way Bay portrays the Japanese in Pearl Harbor, and you haven't seen that movie, I would think your opinion on that subject has very little value. Ha! The thing that killed me about Pearl Harbor was its absurd length (Bay, you're a commercial director. You're the King. Only make 90 minute movies with lots of product placement. You put that yellow golden glow over everything, like the glaze on $1 all you can eat Chinese fast food buffet.) I hated that the movie seemed unaware there were Hawaiians living in and around Pearl Harbor, and that Hawaii was not a state. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,755 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Anyone who directs Point Break gets a free lifetime pass from me. I'll watch every Bigelow movie ever, and I'll like all of them without question. Link to post Share on other sites
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