Ft Should I Have Folded

[fornicator1 0]

PokerStars Game #16474357600: Tournament #83410339, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (1000/2000) - 2008/04/04 - 04:29:09 (ET)Table '83410339 5' 9-max Seat #7 is the buttonSeat 3: renosteve (58030 in chips) Seat 4: Mimmihaj (35334 in chips) Seat 5: thuMper9mm (14710 in chips) Seat 6: fornicator1 (34023 in chips) Seat 7: seorangsuper (127903 in chips) renosteve: posts the ante 200Mimmihaj: posts the ante 200thuMper9mm: posts the ante 200fornicator1: posts the ante 200seorangsuper: posts the ante 200renosteve: posts small blind 1000Mimmihaj: posts big blind 2000*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to fornicator1 [Ac Qc]thuMper9mm: folds fornicator1: raises 8000 to 10000seorangsuper: folds renosteve: raises 47830 to 57830 and is all-inMimmihaj: calls 33134 and is all-infornicator1: calls 23823 and is all-in*** FLOP *** [As 8c 4h]*** TURN *** [As 8c 4h] [9c]*** RIVER *** [As 8c 4h 9c] [7h]*** SHOW DOWN ***renosteve: shows [Td Ts] (a pair of Tens)Mimmihaj: shows [Ah Kd] (a pair of Aces)Mimmihaj collected 2622 from side potfornicator1: shows [Ac Qc] (a pair of Aces - lower kicker)Mimmihaj collected 102469 from main potMimmihaj said, "(;"*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 105091 Main pot 102469. Side pot 2622. | Rake 0 Board [As 8c 4h 9c 7h]Seat 3: renosteve (small blind) showed [Td Ts] and lost with a pair of TensSeat 4: Mimmihaj (big blind) showed [Ah Kd] and won (105091) with a pair of AcesSeat 5: thuMper9mm folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: fornicator1 showed [Ac Qc] and lost with a pair of AcesSeat 7: seorangsuper (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Poker Addict 0]

do you have AIM?

[fornicator1 0]

do you have AIM?

ya fornicator11

[KoRnholio 2]

Preflop raise is too big. You don't need to raise to more than 7500 here. As played that is tough because nearly 1/3 of your stack is in already.

[throwemaway 0]

Raise to 5 or 6K and it plays much differently..If you still get shoved on and then called by another player, easy easy foldTake out results

[copernicus 0]

Raise to 5 or 6K and it plays much differently..If you still get shoved on and then called by another player, easy easy foldTake out results

^^ 5k is standard, I might go to 6k with a middle pocket pair to discourage callers

[qyayqi 11]

agree on the bet sizing. 5050 is my standard at 1k/2k. your bet says, "i don't like my hand THAT much, so i'm betting bigger to get folds." i see the oversized pf raise lots with small pairs that don't want to play post-flop.

[BeaverStyle 1]

I agree w/ most here.. standard hand, raise to 5-6k, fold w/ the overshove and overcall. AQ doesn't play well against 2 players, especially one who cold-calls a raise-re-raise push.

[TravisG 0]

yeah, way too big raise. the thing is: This is a 4.40. raising to 5500 accomplishes the same thing as a raise to 10000. okay, pair of deuces might not call your pf raise that often, but generally, players who just want to see a flop will just call and players who want to get more money in will reraise, no matter how much you make it. some scared players might fold hands that they'd normally call with pf (ATo like hands), but you don't want those hands to fold anyways. as played i still fold. i don't like copernicus suggestion of making it a little more to discourage small pp's because that's quite a heavy betting pattern tell, but players at those limits probably don't look for that anyways, so its fine too.