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Fifth hand in the session. Villain and I have folded all of them. I have no prior experience with him.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)CO ($30.10)Button ($24.65)SB ($18.75)BB ($25)Hero ($25.15)MP ($25)Preflop: Hero is UTG with Kspade.gif, Qdiamond.gif. 2 folds, SB raises to $0.5, Hero raises to $1.75, SB calls $1.Flop: ($3.35) 2club.gif, Theart.gif, 4heart.gif(4 players)SB checks, Hero bets $2.2, SB calls $2.20.Turn: ($7.75) Tclub.gif(4 players)SB checks, Hero checks.River: ($7.75) Qclub.gif(4 players)SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB raises to $8, Hero thinks:This has to be a bluff, right? Who the hell check/min-raises the river... oh wait, maybe its a well played value bet and he knew that I would bet if he checked because the Q is in my range... wait, this is .10/.25, few people think at that level, this has to be a bluff, right? Sh*t, I have no clue what to do here...Thanks.

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This is a value bet way more than it's ever a bluff.I still call though. I've seen people do this as a bluff sometimes and with worse hands as well.

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the preflop description here makes no sense. hero is utg and is 3rd to act, immediately after the small blind?and to add minimal content, it looks like you're crushed. i will randomly guess pocket 4's.

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the preflop description here makes no sense. hero is utg and is 3rd to act, immediately after the small blind?
Yeah, the converter effed up... again. Sometimes I hate that damn thing.
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He wouldnt do this with QJ. Nor with AQ or KQ.AT or KT would make sense. He did min raise it preflop so it could be AA or KK. I don't call.
The thing is you have to call $4 for what's in the middle $19.75. You have to be pretty damn sure this isn't a missed heart flush. It probably isn't a bluff, but it's worth $4 to find out. Then write down how this guy plays a flopped set.
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Thanks for the replies. I almost timed out thinking about the decision, but it just didn't smell right and I was getting crazy good odds to call... so I did and he showed 8-8. Ship it.

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so I did and he showed 8-8. Ship it.
People play so weird. Like, wtf was he thinking?"Oh, a queen! Time for the river check/minraise. I can't think of a better play."
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i would just call, obv no reason to raise. he doesn't check the river to u if he has the ten.

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i would just call, obv no reason to raise. he doesn't check the river to u if he has the ten.
I agree this is a pretty simple call. Strange line and great pot odds makes for an easy decision. Only way I fold is if the player is a huge nit and I've seen them ultra slowplay huge hands before.
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