StilettoNole 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Honestly, I hate playing deep. I wouldn't have thought twice about shoving this with 100BB, but the fact that both of us have quite a bit more than that makes this a tougher play for me. (And, maybe I am a pussay for that... but, I am just trying to fill you in on my thought process during the hand.)I am playing good solid poker and I have only gone to showdown once with a flush. Villain is currently at 22.22% / 5.05%/ 0.65 and I don't feel like I have solid read on him.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)SB ($29.60)BB ($7.10)UTG ($16.75)MP ($38.35)Hero ($49.50)Button ($25)Preflop: Hero is CO with , . 1 fold, MP raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $3, 3 folds, MP calls $2.15.Flop: ($6.35) , , (2 players)MP checks, Hero bets $4.75, MP raises to $10, Hero... (All-In)Thanks guys. Link to post Share on other sites
Andromeda 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 I don't see villain calling your PF raise with pocket 7s or 2s...potentially JJ but I think this is probably a flush draw.I play like a pansy so I'm probably folding so that means the best thing is to shove. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 This is AJ/KJ QQ often enough to shove imo. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 This is AJ/KJ QQ often enough to shove imo.Easily.I disagree that he won't show up with 22 or 77 though since lower limit players call reraises with pairs all day long, not knowing how much $$ they're losing doing it.I probably RR to $25 and call his shove. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Villain is currently at 22.22% / 5.05%/ 0.65It starts to look like maybe it could be a fold here...and I don't feel like I have solid read on him.but becomes an insta reraise here... dunno if you wanna shove or do that pot committing bet thinger... up to you... either way bye bye chippies and GOD DMAN STES Link to post Share on other sites
breathweapon 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 If you weren't in the small blind, I'd fold this, but as it stands he could be seriously under valuing your hand. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Hero... (All-In)Thanks guys.Get a coin out. Heads you shove. Tails you fold. Flip it. Act accordingly. Either 1.6 buyins isn't deep, or I properly loathe online poker. Link to post Share on other sites
litlebullet 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Get a coin out. Heads you shove. Tails you fold. Flip it. Act accordingly. Either 1.6 buyins isn't deep, or I properly loathe online poker.have you ever played sngs? I don't know how to play with more than 20 blinds nowadaws Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 have you ever played sngs? I don't know how to play with LESS more than 20 400-1000 blinds nowadawsFYP Link to post Share on other sites
StilettoNole 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 have you ever played at pokerstars? With everyone buying in short, I don't know how to play with more than 20 blinds nowadawsFYP Link to post Share on other sites
ROBBBIGG 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 this isn't that deep given effective stack sizesand come on dude, do you really need to post a hand like this? you've posted some interesting ones, sure - but an overpair on a flop with two of a suit? Link to post Share on other sites
StilettoNole 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 this isn't that deep given effective stack sizesand come on dude, do you really need to post a hand like this? you've posted some interesting ones, sure - but an overpair on a flop with two of a suit?Honestly, and this is obvious, I lost this hand. I was shocked though as to what the villain had and I thought that made an interesting post. So everyone shoves here, but what do we put him on? So far we have the standard 22, 77, JJ, K-J, A-J or two diamonds. Any other guesses? Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Honestly, and this is obvious, I lost this hand. I was shocked though as to what the villain had and I thought that made an interesting post. So everyone shoves here, but what do we put him on? So far we have the standard 22, 77, JJ, K-J, A-J or two diamonds. Any other guesses?someone ****ing with you with a 7 doooey? It happens. Link to post Share on other sites
Andromeda 0 Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 I was actually going to say 72 but I guess I was hoping people wouldn't really be that dumb to not fold PF...not like you were playing the 72 game or something! 72 seems totally plausible because I personally wouldn't expect it... Link to post Share on other sites
MikeBauer26 0 Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 Easily.I disagree that he won't show up with 22 or 77 though since lower limit players call reraises with pairs all day long, not knowing how much $$ they're losing doing it.I probably RR to $25 and call his shove.Can you provide a bit more details here? Why is this loosing too much money? From what I've seen most players put all their chips in with AA on the 257 Rainbow Flop. Do people actually stop going broke with overpairs at higher stakes? (Honest question). I know you're good at poker. I read in books not to call with anything lower than 99. And still if I hit I get way more implied odds from AA to QQ at .10 levels.So what is the reason for backing off with the smaller pocket pairs? Avoiding oder at least reducing ugly Set over Set Situations`where we have the worst of it?I don't like shortstackers either... still they provide some chips.... Link to post Share on other sites
ROBBBIGG 0 Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 Honestly, and this is obvious, I lost this hand. I was shocked though as to what the villain had and I thought that made an interesting post. So everyone shoves here, but what do we put him on? So far we have the standard 22, 77, JJ, K-J, A-J or two diamonds. Any other guesses?I don't wanna bang on you and sorry you lost, but in this spot, you just give the villain your money and move on if he's got you. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Can you provide a bit more details here? Why is this loosing too much money? From what I've seen most players put all their chips in with AA on the 257 Rainbow Flop. Do people actually stop going broke with overpairs at higher stakes? (Honest question). I know you're good at poker. I read in books not to call with anything lower than 99. And still if I hit I get way more implied odds from AA to QQ at .10 levels.So what is the reason for backing off with the smaller pocket pairs? Avoiding oder at least reducing ugly Set over Set Situations`where we have the worst of it?I don't like shortstackers either... still they provide some chips....I'd like to know this to, both players seem deep enough to call the re-raise and even though MP is OOP, the fact it's a RR pot means he's going to take heros stack more often when he hits. Link to post Share on other sites
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