grocery_mony 8 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Everytime this DN is washed up talk starts happening he does something big. Watch for a big run in the WPT or EPT championships. He is also do for a bracelet or 2 this yerar. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I'm sure you meant 7 digits...I'm sure I meant 8 digits. I'm as sure as the OP. 20 mil, 30 mil..who knows? Could be 50 or 60 mil. Certain Of The Facts, Me and the OP Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 For total results analysis you can start by taking his listed tournament wins and subtracting the million dollar loss we know about, and the losses we have seen on high stakes poker. That would be a good starting point for the 2006 and up discussion. Nothing would please me more to learn that a man I admire, and am greatly thankful towards for sharing so much with the poker community and the world, was indeed in the black since his steady postings of results ceased at some point in 2006.Agreed. There's no way that anyone had a piece of his action or vice versa in those very limited samples we know of. We can only be certain that he's lost 2 million between HSP and that one blog and that's the end of it. Fight the good fight. Link to post Share on other sites
acesup85 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 That's only 1.35 million, sir(quick math)..I'm certain his tournament buyins are at least 4-5 times higher than that over the past 15 months.O rly? The 10k buyins that he has played in the last 15 months cost him 6 mil to enter?Not to mention pokerstars buys him in for a bunch of those Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 O rly? The 10k buyins that he has played in the last 15 months cost him 6 mil to enter?Not to mention pokerstars buys him in for a bunch of thoseUmmm.. 6 mil is a low estimate. Link to post Share on other sites
acesup85 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Tell the OP that he needs his new topic button taken away from him. Link to post Share on other sites
grocery_mony 8 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 That's only 1.35 million, sir(quick math)..I'm certain his tournament buyins are at least 4-5 times higher than that over the past 15 months.ROFL Link to post Share on other sites
acesup85 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 if he played 3 a month for 15 months that is only $450,000 so net profit= 900,000 Link to post Share on other sites
kafkapoe 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 This topic seems to be generating sufficient interest that I shall retain my new topic button. Do not misjudge my admiration for daniel against the backdrop of questions into his poker profits. Daniel is a star whose bank account grows everytime we talk about him. I do not think he is a pauper. I appreciate his bravery by speaking openly on a myriad of topics from game theory, to social reality, to political intrigue. Link to post Share on other sites
Asimo 1 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Nothing would please me more to learn that a man I admireWhy the f*ck would you admire a so called "Professional Poker Player" who has obviously lost millions over the past 18 months? What a loser.I don't know what's worse. To lose all the millions or to admire the guy that does... Link to post Share on other sites
acesup85 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 This topic seems to be generating sufficient interest that I shall retain my new topic button. Do not misjudge my admiration for daniel against the backdrop of questions into his poker profits. Daniel is a star whose bank account grows everytime we talk about him. I do not think he is a pauper. I appreciate his bravery by speaking openly on a myriad of topics from game theory, to social reality, to political intrigue.He also really likes pottery. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 if he played 3 a month for 15 months that is only $450,000 so net profit= 900,000Look buddy, I said 6 mil over 15 months. That's 400k a month. That's 40, 10k tourneys a month. That's hardly an unrealistic number. Just realize that as much as you might not like it, the guy is bleeding money like crazy. Link to post Share on other sites
acesup85 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Look buddy, I said 6 mil over 15 months. That's 400k a month. That's 40, 10k tourneys a month. That's hardly an unrealistic number. Just realize that as much as you might not like it, the guy is bleeding money like crazy.I guess you are right and it took me this long to figure that out. Thank you for pointing me in the way of correctness. Daniel has OBVIOUSLY been getting bent over at the tables. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I guess you are right and it took me this long to figure that out. Thank you for pointing me in the way of correctness. Daniel has OBVIOUSLY been getting bent over at the tables.Good talk. :manly butt slap: Link to post Share on other sites
kafkapoe 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 I am unsure on 10k multis. It would seem that due to freerolling and some discernable profit that this section would be in the black. But if we look to the overall picture the red starts to run wild. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I am unsure on 10k multis. It would seem that due to freerolling and some discernable profit that this section would be in the black. But if we look to the overall picture the red starts to run wild.Wild isn't a strong enough term, my friend.. 'Rampant'..'Roughshod'.. Or maybe we could work 'bloodbath' into there as well. Link to post Share on other sites
SilentButDeadly3 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I am basing my words on post 2006 results that he released. Information on results since are based on his own words and blogs, news accounts, poker posts, internet screening, and the words of other high level pros. I do not claim to be an expert, and am only seeking a fair dialogue on this topic.Basing it on that? Didn't DN say he was up like $900k in the Big Game even after losing that $1M? Don't quote me on the exact number, but I know he was up a substantial amount and I am wayyy too lazy to look it up. In short, OP is an idiot. Link to post Share on other sites
SilentButDeadly3 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Ok I'm a loser and looked up his Big Game stats...Big Game defined by 1.5k/3k or higherFeb 1 2000-4000 6 +$69,000Mar 19 4000-8000 8.5 +$25,000Mar 20 3000-6000 4 +$121,000Mar 21 3000-6000 3 +$146,000Mar 21 4000-8000 4.5 -$310,000Mar 29 4000-8000 5 +$ 43,000Apr 13 1500-3000 4.5 +$90,700Apr 15 4000-8000 12 +$591,000Apr 17 4000-8000 2.5 -$204,000Apr 17 2000-4000 3 +$ 34,000May 18 3000-6000 4 -$ 39,000May 18 4000-8000 3 +$134,500May 25 4000-8000 6 -$ 64,000May 26 4000-8000 9 +$528,000May 27 4000-8000 7 +$252,000May 29 4000-8000 21 - $190,000May 31 4000-8000 4.5 +$ 13,000Jun 06 4000-8000 1.5 +$210,000Jul 21 4000-8000 8 +$462,000Jul 24 4000-8000 21 -$1,279,000Even after his nearly $1.3M loss, DN was still up $632K in the Big Game. God I feel like a fanboy for defending DN, but I have to call out OP for being an idiot. Link to post Share on other sites
Nimue1995 1 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Yeah the Kid is so broke that he bought only an $80,000 golf simulator. ROFL OP is dumber than a box of rocks on this one. Link to post Share on other sites
Viper_13 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Daniel must have a new joke account. Link to post Share on other sites
NaturalNine 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I think people are forgetting about the huge wins on the golf course, not having to pay taxes on tournament winnings and the number of profitable bracelet/prop bets.(sw) Seriously I don't think he's anywhere near busto but he does he have a bankroll for the big game just sitting around, probably not. I think he will get back there at some point though. Link to post Share on other sites
SilentButDeadly3 0 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I think people are forgetting about the huge wins on the golf course, not having to pay taxes on tournament winnings and the number of profitable bracelet/prop bets.(sw) Seriously I don't think he's anywhere near busto but he does he have a bankroll for the big game just sitting around, probably not. I think he will get back there at some point though.You do realize most players in the Big Game probably aren't "properly rolled" for the big game Link to post Share on other sites
NaturalNine 0 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 You do realize most players in the Big Game probably aren't "properly rolled" for the big gameYes. Playing live for 4 years I can't think of many people that are/were "properly rolled" period at any level.I also forgot about his Wynn heads up matches where he's 4-4 and up +$626,000 and his marriage from 05 to 07 (Which included buying Jen Harman's house). I think someone also mentioned his horrible luck on High Stakes Poker as well. Link to post Share on other sites
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