It's Like Porn For Lly

[ShakeZuma 585]

^^^ Theoretical physics in a nutshell.just kidding...stringtheory4life

YORKE NEEDS THIS TATTOOED ON HIS ASS, STAT

[ice4804 0]

On a somewhat (un)related note, how is there not a Dear LLY thread to serve as a consolidated source of information for all our mathematical and scientifical needs??I, for one, have many such needs.

[Jadaki 0]

YORKE NEEDS THIS TATTOOED ON HIS ASS, STAT

Nah, in a 1/2 circle shape across his stomach.

[silkyjonson 1]

I know how to destroy it, but I'll need help from a Wookie.

[Vinnie_Terranova 5]

Can it produce 1.21 Gigawatts?

Yeah, but how the hell are we gonna get it up to 88 mphs?

[jeff_536 3]

Nah, in a 1/2 circle shape across his stomach.

Olde English style

[runthemover 39]

I like how LLY could write a post that was basically filled with gibberish and we'd all nod and not know the difference.

[ajs510 122]

I like how LLY could write a post that was basically filled with gibberish and we'd all nod and not know the difference.

Not Speedz, he's Jewish. His people have been bullshitted for eons.

[Vinnie_Terranova 5]

Yeah, but how the hell are we gonna get it up to 88 mphs?

Roads?Where we're going we don't need roads.

[runthemover 39]

Not Speedz, he's Jewish. His people have been bullshitted for eons.

This 'being Jewish' thing seems pretty convenient. Frankly, I'd reckon that some if not all of their history is made up.

[LongLiveYorke 38]

So if it works..it does what exactly? Blows shit up?

I feel like Dan Brown already covered exactly what will happen.

Yeah. It blows stuff up. It blows stuff up real good. It does this by colliding billions of protons going at the speed of light into each other. When this happens, if there is enough energy, particles are created. There needs to be a lot of energy in order to create the mass necessary to make new particles (E=mc^2, richt). This accelerator should have enough energy to create some theoretically predicted particles.We are pretty darn sure that we'll find what is called the Higgs Boson. This is the last piece of the puzzle in what is called the "Standard Model," which basically is our current model for how most of the universe works. But we also hope to find some "beyond the standard model" physics.If Supersymmetry is correct, or if any part of it is true, then there's a good chance that we'll detect it by finding the supersymmetric partner particles that have thus far eluded us. We could also get evidence for String theory and could learn about conditions in the very early universe.

[LongLiveYorke 38]

From what I know (not much), it is going to have the capabilities to produce some of the highest energy collisions ever

It certainly will create the highest man made collisions ever, but mother nature beats us by a long shot. We are constantly being hit from space by what are called Ultra High Energy cosmic rays. These fall on the Earth at a rate of, if I remember correctly, about one per square kilometer per century. I forget their rate exactly. But they are insanely energetic.To get some sense of scale, they are subatomic particles (protons) that each have the energy of a thrown baseball. Which is insane.

[Ouch-8s 4]

Yeah. It blows stuff up. It blows stuff up real good. It does this by colliding billions of protons going at the speed of light into each other. When this happens, if there is enough energy, particles are created. There needs to be a lot of energy in order to create the mass necessary to make new particles (E=mc^2, richt). This accelerator should have enough energy to create some theoretically predicted particles.We are pretty darn sure that we'll find what is called the Higgs Boson. This is the last piece of the puzzle in what is called the "Standard Model," which basically is our current model for how most of the universe works. But we also hope to find some "beyond the standard model" physics.If Supersymmetry is correct, or if any part of it is true, then there's a good chance that we'll detect it by finding the supersymmetric partner particles that have thus far eluded us. We could also get evidence for String theory and could learn about conditions in the very early universe.

<nods knowlingly>

[ajs510 122]

This 'being Jewish' thing seems pretty convenient. Frankly, I'd reckon that some if not all of their history is made up.

I hear the Holocaust was actually a lot like Woodstock.

[runthemover 39]

I hear the Holocaust was actually a lot like Woodstock.

Serious. Did you ever read Maus? THEY'RE ALL ANIMALS

[ajs510 122]

<nods knowlingly>

Nodding would make my head hurt more than it already does.

[ice4804 0]

If Supersymmetry is correct, or if any part of it is true, then there's a good chance that we'll detect it by finding the supersymmetric partner particles that have thus far eluded us. We could also get evidence for String theory and could learn about conditions in the very early universe.

Why is it that (assuming they do, in fact, exist) supersymmetric particles have never been detected before? If I remember correctly, some of them are rather massive (~100-1000 times the mass of a proton) which makes it seem like they would be far easier to detect than something like an up-quark or electron-neutrino, which are many times smaller than a proton.Is it simply that they are not "common" particles, and so far we have not been able to create a collision energetic enough to create one?I think your ball-park rate of Ultra High Energy cosmic rays hitting Earth is correct; Greene mentions something similar.

[Ouch-8s 4]

Nodding would make my head hurt more than it already does.

well, a nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat.

[Ouch-8s 4]

Why is it that (assuming they do, in fact, exist) supersymmetric particles have never been detected before? If I remember correctly, some of them are rather massive (~100-1000 times the mass of a proton) which makes it seem like they would be far easier to detect than something like an up-quark or electron-neutrino, which are many times smaller than a proton.Is it simply that they are not "common" particles, and so far we have not been able to create a collision energetic enough to create one?I think your ball-park rate of Ultra High Energy cosmic rays hitting Earth is correct; Greene mentions something similar.

check out this dude!

[nopunk 0]

Instead of building a particle accelerator that might turn up something, maybe they should have fed all the world's hungry.Ten times over.

[ajs510 122]

Instead of building a particle accelerator that might turn up something, maybe they should have fed all the world's hungry.Ten times over.

I think it's pretty clear at this point that the only people who care about feeding hungry people are the hungry people themselves, and people who like to complain about goverment spending. Nearly everyone with the means or ability to do something about it decides there are other things they'd rather spend the dough on. Just the way it goes. Besides, particle accelerators are badass and you only have to spend $10 billion on them once, what happens when all the world's hungry have their hands out for more food next year?

[nopunk 0]

I think it's pretty clear at this point that the only people who care about feeding hungry people are the hungry people themselves, and people who like to complain about goverment spending. Nearly everyone with the means or ability to do something about it decides there are other things they'd rather spend the dough on. Just the way it goes. Besides, particle accelerators are badass.

I think at this point they are basically becoming dick measuring contests between countries (among other things).I'm too lazy to look it up, but I know I've read about several more particle accelerators in planning/under construction.I don't know why I chose particle accelerators to be at the crux of my anger over ridiculous government spending, but they are. Have been for several years now, although I agree they are interesting.

[bigkg 0]

In 7th grade I went on a field trip to the Fermi Lab Particle Accelerator in Aurora, IL.

[ajs510 122]

I think at this point they are basically becoming dick measuring contests between countries (among other things).I'm too lazy to look it up, but I know I've read about several more particle accelerators in planning/under construction.I don't know why I chose particle accelerators to be at the crux of my anger over ridiculous government spending, but they are. Have been for several years now, although I agree they are interesting.

I wasn't picking on you personally, just seems like the "feed the world's hungry" statement comes up everytime a nation's goverment buys something somewhat frivolous. That's just what goverments do. I'd actually like to hear from Yorke about what good reasons there are to build a supercollider, and what supercollider technology has actually led to on a practical human level (new inventions, etc). I poked around a little and couldn't find anything, but I'm as much of a physicist as Donald Duck is a nuclear submarine captain. My guess is that the answer will be "nothing", but I don't really know, just seems like their whole point of existence is to prove theories and whatnot.

[nopunk 0]

I wasn't picking on you personally, just seems like the "feed the world's hungry" statement comes up everytime a nation's goverment buys something somewhat frivolous. That's just what goverments do. I'd actually like to hear from Yorke about what good reasons there are to build a supercollider, and what supercollider technology has actually led to on a practical human level (new inventions, etc). I poked around a little and couldn't find anything, but I'm as much of a physicist as Donald Duck is a nuclear submarine captain. My guess is that the answer will be "nothing", but I don't really know, just seems like their whole point of existence is to prove theories and whatnot.

I'm not taking it personally, but these things are money pits.What will happen is, if they find what they want, they will need a bigger one (and another $20 billion) to find the next new thing.If they don't find what they want, they will need a bigger one (and another $20 billion) to find the thing they couldn't find before.Science magazine: "Many particle physicists say their greatest fear is that this grand new machine, the Large Hadron Collider, will spot the Higgs boson and nothing else. If so, particle physics could grind to a halt."Billions spent and the people running it are hoping for an astounding failure. At least its not as bad as the money pissed away in the middle east, but I digress.I think initially these particle accelerators were useful, but I'm not sure what the last couple of generations of accelerators have discovered other than more questions. That's for someone more knowledgeable than me on the subject of particle physics.