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$1/$2/$300 NLHEVillain1: a billion ($2,600 +/-) Very looseVillain2: $850 Very tight and knows how to playHero: a billion ($3,000 +/-)Hero picks up KK in the SB. UTG opens to $12UTG1 calls Villain1 callsMP callsVillain2 raises to $75Hero?I'll see what you all think about this very deepstack play, then I'll tell you what the next action was.

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i think i would still 3bet
It would be a 4 bet.To a thinking player, whether you cold call or 4 bet it's going to represent massive strength considering the action in front of you, and that it was UTG that opened.I think I just make it $275 to go... don't give a single stack on the table odds to mine you.
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I would call, 4 betting your hand is going to give it away to a good player, unless you have been 4 betting lots of things?
i think calling is very bad with 5 guys in the pot already if you just call then first in calls then you may lose one player if your lucky. i think we have to narrow the field here even if we get it HU. i 4-bet to around $275
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i think calling is very bad with 5 guys in the pot already if you just call then first in calls then you may lose one player if your lucky. i think we have to narrow the field here even if we get it HU. i 4-bet to around $275
that is one way to play it, the thing I don't like about this is that he calls the $200 knowing our range down to 2 hands so often... I love cracking people that overplay one hand.If you can play post flop you can call here but you have to be able to muck on a 456 flop...Meh its gambling...
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that is one way to play it, the thing I don't like about this is that he calls the $200 knowing our range down to 2 hands so often... I love cracking people that overplay one hand.If you can play post flop you can call here but you have to be able to muck on a 456 flop...Meh its gambling...
So by cold calling from the SB we narrow down our hand to 3 hands? :club:
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that is one way to play it, the thing I don't like about this is that he calls the $200 knowing our range down to 2 hands so often... I love cracking people that overplay one hand.If you can play post flop you can call here but you have to be able to muck on a 456 flop...Meh its gambling...
agreedi guess playing style could have an impact on how i play this.
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i don't think flat calling here necessarily signals that we have QQ+/AKdepends on how we've been playing up to this point, but with that large of a PF 3bet by tight villain, and given that both of us are deep, a thinking player also considers that our calling range might be wider in that we're trying to setmine ourselves.

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I made it $225. Everyone lays down except the tight player. He announces all in. Here's the thing. Tight player knows I can do this with AK AQ QQ even JJ against the loose villain.
I know where you're headed with this...stop itstop it!!!!!FRIGGING CALL
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I know where you're headed with this...stop itstop it!!!!!FRIGGING CALL
I know where you're headed with this...stop itstop it!!!!!FRIGGING CALL
I know where you're headed with this...stop itstop it!!!!!FRIGGING CALL
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Even worse, the dealer peeks and an A flops.The whole reason I play it this way is because he only makes the big re-raise with a big PP -- AA KK and sometimes QQ. He take a flop with AK.
LOL @ resultsResults from http:\\www.HoldEmRanger.com 123,285,888 evaluations, 72 hole card combosPre-flop Wins Ties Equity36.99% 0.23% 37.22% ( KK ) 62.55% 0.23% 62.78% ( AA(70),QQ(30) )
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This fold is fine. He's 400+ BBs deep. The guy's tight and reraised an UTG raiser and a bunch of callers and then 5 bet shoves over a reraise. Calling with KK here really isn't profitable. Nice hand.

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This fold is fine. He's 400+ BBs deep. The guy's tight and reraised an UTG raiser and a bunch of callers and then 5 bet shoves over a reraise. Calling with KK here really isn't profitable. Nice hand.
another reason to just call, you don't get blown off your hand when he does have AA, and you have a chance to stack him.
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another reason to just call, you don't get blown off your hand when he does have AA, and you have a chance to stack him.
No, I really think he makes the right play here. His hand is too big and there are too many people already in the pot NOT to reraise here.
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