outsider13 0 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Calderon is a stud now since he developed his shot over the past few years. I agree that he will be near the top of the league for many years to come. Link to post Share on other sites
Poppy_Hillis 11 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I mean, he's pretty close to Chris Paul right now.Oh dear Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Oh dearWhen I get the time, it will be fairly easy for me to provide a ton of stats that back this up. Can you do anything to prove your argument besides say "Oh dear", "Interesting" (when he slumped for 6 games last year), and "He didn't start for his olympic team"? Link to post Share on other sites
Poppy_Hillis 11 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 When I get the time, it will be fairly easy for me to provide a ton of stats that back this up. Can you do anything to prove your argument besides say "Oh dear", "Interesting" (when he slumped for 6 games last year), and "He didn't start for his olympic team"?Do I really have to explain how Jose Calderon is not in the same league as Chris Paul? Don't show me stats, this ain't baseball. Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Do I really have to explain how Jose Calderon is not in the same league as Chris Paul? Don't show me stats, this ain't baseball.He is up there though. I think I'd put Paul and Williams up at the top right now. Nash is still solid but definitely on the decline. Calderon is top 5 in the league right now, and perhaps the best in the east. The biggest problem with Calderon is his inability to cover good PGs. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 Do I really have to explain how Jose Calderon is not in the same league as Chris Paul? Don't show me stats, this ain't baseball.Calderon's upside is John Stocken lite, pretty darn good but not Chris Paul who by the time it's all said and done might end up as the best point guard ever. Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Do I really have to explain how Jose Calderon is not in the same league as Chris Paul? Don't show me stats, this ain't baseball.Yes. Link to post Share on other sites
Poppy_Hillis 11 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Calderon's upside is John Stocken lite, pretty darn good but not Chris Paul who by the time it's all said and done might end up as the best point guard ever. Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Calderon's upside is John Stocken lite, pretty darn good but not Chris Paul who by the time it's all said and done might end up as the best point guard ever.OK, so you have no facts, just vague opinions, to back up your answer to my question? Explain it to me like I'm your 8 year old son asking why he's better. Link to post Share on other sites
Steamed Rice 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I might be the only one left in Toronto who thinks TJ Ford is a better player than Calderon. And before everyone tells me to STFU I probably know more about basketball than you.The Toronto media strikes again!Boy don't I feel like an idiot...Calderon is a better player obv but if they played 1-on-1 I would have to give it to FordLet me save myself somehow...lol Link to post Share on other sites
Steamed Rice 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Calderon's upside is John Stocken lite, pretty darn good but not Chris Paul who by the time it's all said and done might end up as the best point guard ever.OK, so you have no facts, just vague opinions, to back up your answer to my question? Explain it to me like I'm your 8 year old son asking why he's better.Chris Paul is better at- scoring- defense- passingFFS look at his roster. Tyson Chandler was awful before he played with CP3, and David West was a nobody. They are now a top 5 team in the league. A starting lineup of Chandler/West/Stojakovic/Peterson/(add an average PG) would have NO shot in the West. Calderon is a better shooter but Paul's %s are absurd for a PG as well, so JC's edge isn't huge.It doesn't take a brain surgeon to know that Paul is a lot better than Calderon. I hate saying that CP3 could be a better PG than Magic but if his numbers keep improving you can legitimately make the argument. Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 This guy is making me look like the dumbest guy on the planet over the last 4 games Link to post Share on other sites
Poppy Hillis 0 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 This guy is making me look like the dumbest guy on the planet over the last 4 gamesIt's alright, you just got caught up. You can always change your mind. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 This guy is making me look like the dumbest guy on the planet over the last 4 gamesCalderon pulled a Hammie in the first half tonight and the way the team played without him showed how screwed the Raptors will be if he's down for any extended time. Link to post Share on other sites
jayboogie 0 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Calderon's been annoying me with his play lately. I know his hamstring is slowing him down and he's probably playing at 75%, but I'm getting sick of him just standing there dribbling the ball and dumping it into Bosh. He needs to start creating some shots for his other teammates and stop relying on Bosh so much. Link to post Share on other sites
Arsenic 0 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 He is definitley sick. He's like less than ten free throws away from breaking the most consecutive free throws made record. Raptors dont need to make the playoffs, they just need to set some motha****en records. After Jose' starts the trend, Bosh is gonna pull through with the highest single game scoring record; 101 points "PASS IT TO BOSH" **** yeah. Just wait and see......... Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 He is definitley sick. He's like less than ten free throws away from breaking the most consecutive free throws made record. Raptors dont need to make the playoffs, they just need to set some motha****en records. After Jose' starts the trend, Bosh is gonna pull through with the highest single game scoring record; 101 points "PASS IT TO BOSH" **** yeah. Just wait and see.........Jose is definitely impressive with his return and instant turn around of the Raptors. Link to post Share on other sites
Poppy_Hillis 11 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Jose Calderon. Where holding college players to under 106 happens.http://www.ballinisahabit.net/2010/08/core...ntury-mark.html Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyJoJo 18 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Jose Calderon. Where holding college players to under 106 happens.http://www.ballinisahabit.net/2010/08/core...ntury-mark.html To be fair, he was probably only guarding him for like 70, 75 points or so of that. Link to post Share on other sites
Poppy_Hillis 11 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 To be fair, he was probably only guarding him for like 70, 75 points or so of that.To be fair, it probably wasn't even him. Probably some Puerto-Rican who looked like him. Link to post Share on other sites
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