Jayray 0 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Playing in a home game this weekend and the following situation came up.....6 handed NL Holdem Tournament. Girl in the BB was extremely short stacked and verbally declared all in before the flop (she had about 3BB).....another player questioned this saying that it would affect the play of others at the table who may have otherwise limped.....is this allowed? To me it seems that she is acting out of turn.....thoughts? thanksJayray Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 15 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 jayray, please work to better explain the exact series of events. like what was the action to her, when did she declare all-in, etc.?the way you have it worded makes it difficult to answer the question. Link to post Share on other sites
MyPlayIsRAB 0 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 she cant go allin until action has gotten back to her, ie. everyone else has bet or folded. Link to post Share on other sites
Jayray 0 Posted February 19, 2008 Author Share Posted February 19, 2008 jayray, please work to better explain the exact series of events. like what was the action to her, when did she declare all-in, etc.?the way you have it worded makes it difficult to answer the question.My bad.....I will try again, sorry.We are playing six handed. The girl takes a pretty big hit, all but like 3BB. As the cards are being dealt for the next hand (with her in the BB) she pushes the remainder of her chips out and says "I am all in dark"...and the other guy (the button) says "you can't do that from the BB, you are acting out of turn...these other folks may have limped/raised/whatever if you hadn't stated you were all in dark".... So no one else had acted yet, the girl utg immediately folds...and so on......Is this ok? Link to post Share on other sites
Naps_555 0 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 it sounds to me like the BB moved in dark before anyone else has acted, I believe it is not allowed and the player should be warned about acting out of turn, however the action for the current hand stands and unless someone raises before her turn then she is all in. If someone else raises then she has the option to fold , move all in etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Jayray 0 Posted February 19, 2008 Author Share Posted February 19, 2008 That's kind of where I was at...thanks for the thoughts guys...Jayray Link to post Share on other sites
therescav 0 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Unless she gets a walk shes going to be playing for all her chips anyways so strategically it would be smart for her to wait, get some dead money in the pot and then go all in.I know this did not answer your question, just pointing it out. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 it sounds to me like the BB moved in dark before anyone else has acted, I believe it is not allowed and the player should be warned about acting out of turn, however the action for the current hand stands and unless someone raises before her turn then she is all in. If someone else raises then she has the option to fold , move all in etc.I believe this is absolutely correct. Prepare for 13cards to come in this thread and say you're wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Unless she gets a walk shes going to be playing for all her chips anyways so strategically it would be smart for her to wait, get some dead money in the pot and then go all in.I know this did not answer your question, just pointing it out.The rest of the field isn't going to fold for 2bb more, so I don't think the other players are contributing dead money. Ideally, when I have a random hand I would prefer that all the other players fold. Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 :Insert obligatory and all too obvious "All In Before The Floop" reference here: Link to post Share on other sites
thebottomline 0 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Surely it would just count as a Mississippi straddle, and whether or not these were legal in the game would be decided beforehand?EDIT: Just seen it's a tourney.. ok. Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 :Insert obligatory and all too obvious "All In Before The Floop" reference here:Consider it done. Link to post Share on other sites
vervius 0 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 it's a home game... Link to post Share on other sites
onlyme386 0 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 jayray, please work to better explain the exact series of events. like what does she look like, how old is she, single, etc.?the way you have it worded makes it difficult to answer the question.FYP Link to post Share on other sites
Dogpatch 2 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 it's a home game...And that means what? The rules should still be followed. Link to post Share on other sites
dapokerbum 0 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 if she's hot then it's okay.and obv TTIWWP (unless she's a cow, then it's plain worthless) Link to post Share on other sites
vervius 0 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 And that means what? The rules should still be followed.just means they're supposed to be fun. i go all in pre-deal a lot. unless it's a serious game... but i didn't get that feel, ya know? Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Playing in a home game this weekend and the following situation came up.....6 handed NL Holdem Tournament. Girl in the BB was extremely short stacked and verbally declared all in before the flop (she had about 3BB).....another player questioned this saying that it would affect the play of others at the table who may have otherwise limped.....is this allowed? To me it seems that she is acting out of turn.....thoughts? thanksJayrayhwo is it posible to axsept all in befor the floop? (first?) Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 :Insert obligatory and all too obvious "All In Before The Floop" reference here:Nope. Dang. Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 hwo is it posible to axsept all in befor the floop? (first?)Plus you're not even close. Without looking I think it's:How is possible to accept all-in withouth to see the floop Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Plus you're not even close. Without looking I think it's:How is possible to accept all-in withouth to see the floopI'm working on memory here. It's not like I'm going to look it up for you.Or anyone else without boobs, for that matter. Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Punch that dumb cunt in the ovaries. Link to post Share on other sites
Vtlaxer09 4 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Punch that dumb cunt in her penisFYP Link to post Share on other sites
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