Tptk Vs River Bet

[JustR 0]

My only notes on villian was that he was a loose player (it must have been from previous sessions) as he was playing pretty tight so far in this session.What would you do here??PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)UTG+1 ($26.35)MP1 ($33.85)MP2 ($14.50)CO ($30.05)Button ($27.50)SB ($28.95)BB ($26.70)Hero ($47.85)Preflop: Hero is UTG with K , A . Hero raises to $1, 4 folds, Button calls $1, 2 folds.Flop: ($2.35) K , J , 5 (2 players)Hero bets $1.75, Button calls $1.75.Turn: ($5.85) J (2 players)Hero bets $4, Button calls $4.River: ($13.85) 6 (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $9.75, Hero ???

[mk 11]

you only have to be good here ~29% of the time and since KQ and busted flush/straight draws make up a decent percentage of his range, call.

[mtdesmoines 3]

Betting the river yourself makes this a million times easier. I think you have to call.Kh X? wouldn't surprise me, which puts you ahead. If he had JJJ, he'd be going a little crazier.

[sactownjoey 0]

The passive line is either a. really strong (KJ, KK, JJ, 55), b. weakly played AA or c. busted FD you have dominated. I know the math says call but I'd be interested in knowing how many times villain's gone to showdown and how often he wins. When I lose, it mostly comes from overvaluing TPTK on this kind of board so maybe that influences my thought that we are beat here since KQhh is about the only hand I can think of (unless villain is the type to play Axhh) we are going to beat here. And if this is Kxhh, is he really betting this river with the paired board?

[mtdesmoines 3]

The passive line is either a. really strong (KJ, KK, JJ, 55), b. weakly played AA or c. busted FD you have dominated. I know the math says call but I'd be interested in knowing how many times villain's gone to showdown and how often he wins. When I lose, it mostly comes from overvaluing TPTK on this kind of board so maybe that influences my thought that we are beat here since KQhh is about the only hand I can think of (unless villain is the type to play Axhh) we are going to beat here. And if this is Kxhh, is he really betting this river with the paired board?

Aboslutely. He haz top tooz.

[sactownjoey 0]

Aboslutely. He haz top tooz.

We are beat here. A lot. A passive player with a weak K doesn't bet the river and an aggro player w/nut flush draw or Kxhh raises either flop or turn.

[NoBBiR 0]

I'm snap calling the river, but wondering why you're checking it to begin with?

[JustR 0]

When villian made this bet I had this feeling that I was beat. But given the way the hand was played I called (putting him on a broken flush draw) and maybe a weaker K. I understand the thinking of betting the river (and folding to a raise I assume?), but being OOP isn't check/calling a better line? I always have trouble handling/overvaluing these TPTK situations. I figured check/calling here would be almost standardResults: Villian flipped over AJo and took the pot

[NoBBiR 0]

When villian made this bet I had this feeling that I was beat. But given the way the hand was played I called (putting him on a broken flush draw) and maybe a weaker K. I understand the thinking of betting the river (and folding to a raise I assume?), but being OOP isn't check/calling a better line? I always have trouble handling/overvaluing these TPTK situations. I figured check/calling here would be almost standardResults: Villian flipped over AJo and took the pot

No. C/c is a worse line. You get max value from a weaker king and any other hands he wants to hero call you down with, which are all hands he's not going to bet on the river, but he might call with, and it's hard for a lot of players to fire a blind bluff with a busted flush draw here. Sometimes people think that calling ~9 here and seeing his hand down, vs. betting ~9 here and folding to a shove when you're pretty positive you're beat, that the latter would be better because you see the hand down, but it's not. You just lose value because he's so unlikely to bet anything we beat. There is practically no one who is going to bluff shove that river if you bet, so if you get raised, it's a fairly easy fold.B/f is much better, imo.