AimHigher 0 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Hero (t6675)UTG (t1685)MP (t2680)Button (t5470)SB (t465)Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, J. 3 folds, SB raises to t465, Hero calls t315.Flop: (t930) 5, K, 2(2 players)Turn: (t930) A(2 players)River: (t930) 2(2 players)Final Pot: t930Getting 2:1, do my hole cards even matter? What about if it was for a larger portion of my stack? Link to post Share on other sites
AimHigher 0 Posted February 13, 2008 Author Share Posted February 13, 2008 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)Hero (t6135)MP (t1460)Button (t2305)SB (t5920)BB (t1155)Preflop: Hero is UTG with , . Hero raises to t450, MP calls t450, 3 folds.Flop: (t1125) , , (2 players)Hero bets t450, MP calls t450.Turn: (t2025) (2 players)Hero checks, MP checks.River: (t2025) (2 players)Hero checks, MP bets t560 (All-In), Hero calls t560.Final Pot: t3145Bet a little more on the flop? Link to post Share on other sites
AimHigher 0 Posted February 13, 2008 Author Share Posted February 13, 2008 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)SB (t9270)Hero (t6705)UTG (t1680)MP (t1755)CO (t1445)Button (t6145)Preflop: Hero is BB with , . 1 fold, MP raises to t1200, CO calls t1200, 1 fold, SB calls t1000, Hero?Worth a call? Or are pot odds just tempting me into getting myself into trouble OOP? Link to post Share on other sites
little punish 0 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Hand #1 - Correct call, especially given your stack size and the price. His range is almost any two.Hand #2 - I HATE the call on the river. What can you beat? It looks like a Q with either the Kd or Ad trying really hard to milk. His p/f call for 1/3 of his chips scares me. Unless he is super passive, this should signal a warning sign. If this were me, I close my eyes and put him in on the flop, which is about the size of the pot, especially with the Jd.As played, never EVER am I calling this river. Might just be me.Hand #3 - Tough spot. A read on MP or CO would be nice. But without reads, I probably call. Remember, you have position on the SB, who is really the only one not pot-committed. Also, with two players a/i, you might get to see the turn and the river for free with the SB.Is anyone here making a squeeze? Link to post Share on other sites
bigcoled 1 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Hand 1: Not worth it... what do you have to prove in this hand? He nails it slow plays it you try to steal and he doubles off you? Nothing but trouble... Cash game it's possible, tournament no chance, not against any type of player...Hand 2: Get that short stack in on the flop, no sense in waiting...what more are you waiting for, he has 1K left?hand 3: 4 players and a discount, you have outs to the flush nuts and the broadway nuts... gotta call and look for the nuts... Link to post Share on other sites
StupidKid 0 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Hand 1: Not worth it... what do you have to prove in this hand? He nails it slow plays it you try to steal and he doubles off you? Nothing but trouble... Cash game it's possible, tournament no chance, not against any type of player...Hand 2: Get that short stack in on the flop, no sense in waiting...what more are you waiting for, he has 1K left?hand 3: 4 players and a discount, you have outs to the flush nuts and the broadway nuts... gotta call and look for the nuts...The bolded part doesn't even really make sense...Hand 1: StandardHand 2 : I just pot the flop.Hand 3: I just muck, the initial raiser and the initial caller have about 5 bbs put together left behind. If one had shoved and it folded to me I probably call, but the way that it's happened I fold. Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Hand 1 - Call with any 2. Even if he doubles, you are still way ahead here.Hand 2 - It's hard not to call the way you played it, but really, what do you beat here? Push the flop or get out. Pot size bet on the flop puts him pretty much all in.Hand 3 - Not worth it. When the chip leader smooth calls a 3xbb raise into a 3 way pot, I'll sit back and watch somebody get eliminated on this hand. Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Hand 1: Trivial call. You have a huge stack and you have no reason to believe he's holding a PP. Against two unsuited overcards your hand is no worse than ~2:1, and your J means the chances of him having 2 overs are slim. Hand 2: I'm leading bigger on the flop. Your hand is most likely ahead here but that is a very drawy board. Make a large enough bet that he has no choice but to commit all his chips or fold. I'd lead for at least 600 here. Then you avoid the annoying river decision (where you are most likely beaten but the pot odds are so tempting). Han 3: I'm not getting involved here. MP makes a raise to 1200, which is called by CO (who is shortstacked) and SB. The pot odds may be tempting, but unless you hit your flush AJs is a hand that is likely already dominated by AK/AQ/AA/KK/QQ/JJ or slightly behind a medium PP. With 3 people involved already this is a high risk/low reward situation. Link to post Share on other sites
gobears 0 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Hand 1 - Fine, his range is ATC so you have more than the correct pot oddsHand 2 - Shove Flop, just get it in there against the short stackHand 3 - I fold since the big stack is in the hand. If the big stack was out, then I call. Link to post Share on other sites
AimHigher 0 Posted February 13, 2008 Author Share Posted February 13, 2008 Thanks guys,Hand 1 - I called and he flipped over QQ, LOL. I think I am still calling there all day long though, I have to be at least 33% against his range.Hand 2 - After he checked the turn I realized I was ahead, I should have just put him on the flop but I allowed him to draw out. I called just to see what he had and he showed A7.Hand 3 - I folded. SB showed AQs, MP showed KJ and CO showed some trash hand. MP caught his jack and it held up. CO bust out. Link to post Share on other sites
bigcoled 1 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 hand 1 is a pointless call....no reason for calling, no matter what his range is with J6os... all you're looking for is a pissing match that will not work out in your favor.... Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Hand 1 - fold; 2:1 isnt enough to play that dog of a hand. If you double him up here then the next time he pushes and you have a better hand that this you have to be very worried about doubling him up again.Hand 2 - shouldnt matter. If hes calling 450 hes calling a push too.Hand 3 - obvious push. Squeeze the heck out of the big stack thats just limping in. If youre afraid that a tricky SB has a real hand and might have limped to suck you in, then fold. The worst option is to call with the big stack in the hand. If it were a STT with these stacks of course its a fold. Link to post Share on other sites
MovingIn 0 Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 1. Desperation range is just about ATC, your cards can play against a good deal of that range and getting beat wouldn't hurt you too badly. Easy call.2. Not a good flop for JJ, and the flop call from villain with so little behind doesn't bode well either. Check down and let it go, as calling the river spews a sizable portion of your remaining stack.3. At ~16 BB, if you're gonna play it at all, shove. If not, lay it down. You don't have enough behind to flat call and hope for a good flop unless you intend to shove the flop regardless, in which case you may as well shove PF. Link to post Share on other sites
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