Ja-Bird 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Buy in is $ 90 +$10 +$5 for the dealersstarting stack 300087 entrieschips in play: est 261,000top 4 get seats +70 in cash and 5th gets $1550 in cashDown to 7 playersjust started the 4000- 8000 levelIt is folded around to the cutoff and he looks down at A7 suited with about 29000 stackbutton has about 65000SB has about 27000BB 12000What is the move here1.fold2.call3.raise Link to post Share on other sites
gobears 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 You didn't mention the other three stacks but some math indicates that there are 127,000 chips left between those three so I'm assuming that all three of them have more chips than you.That puts you 5th in chips although the SB is right behind you. I shove and hope to get HU with the BB who is committed. Link to post Share on other sites
scoobylee 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Fairly standard shove IMHO. You have 3.5 BBs. Link to post Share on other sites
Ja-Bird 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 Was barely 4th in chips I believe, and shove was the play that was made. I thought it was a standard shove too, but the fact it was a satellite makes me believe the play may have been incorrect. I don't know? Link to post Share on other sites
nextprotege16 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Sounds like you made the standard move in this situation. AX suited in this situation is almost always a shove situation. How did it turn out? Link to post Share on other sites
Ja-Bird 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 Sounds like you made the standard move in this situation. AX suited in this situation is almost always a shove situation. How did it turn out?Not good. The Sb calls allin w AK and the BB folds 44The Flop was K44 I was left with a 1k chip and managed to bust out 6th not 7th for a big ole bag of nothing.....good times Link to post Share on other sites
KoRnholio 2 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 You still need to gambol in satellites. Your stack size doesn't give you the luxury to pass up opportunities like this. Link to post Share on other sites
AndyZ28 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 If you had 3.5BBs left like someone else said, it's a standard shove. As for Council Bluffs, IA, hope to see ya there. Gonna try and make it out there for a few days and play some tourneys, and probably a satellite. Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Buy in is $ 90 +$10 +$5 for the dealersstarting stack 300087 entrieschips in play: est 261,000top 4 get seats +70 in cash and 5th gets $1550 in cashDown to 7 playersjust started the 4000- 8000 levelIt is folded around to the cutoff and he looks down at A7 suited with about 29000 stackbutton has about 65000SB has about 27000BB 12000What is the move here1.fold2.call3.raisetotally dependent on whether theres another short stack in the first 4 positions. In an MTT this is an easy shove but in a satellite 2 from a major win youve got to be very careful about stack sizes. You know that BB is playing the hand and you also know that button isnt playing without a monster. SB will be getting good odds but still needs a good hand to play. so really a push here is an isolation play against BB. A7 is above average, so youre +tEV. However if theres a 2d short stack in the 12-15k range I think its a fold. Link to post Share on other sites
Ja-Bird 0 Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 totally dependent on whether theres another short stack in the first 4 positions. In an MTT this is an easy shove but in a satellite 2 from a major win youve got to be very careful about stack sizes. You know that BB is playing the hand and you also know that button isnt playing without a monster. SB will be getting good odds but still needs a good hand to play. so really a push here is an isolation play against BB. A7 is above average, so youre +tEV. However if theres a 2d short stack in the 12-15k range I think its a fold.Thanks for the feedback copernicus. There is some value to it. Link to post Share on other sites
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