El Guapo 8 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Most retarded conversation ever...You should jum on Chrozzo vision Hes doing card tricks w Troyomachttp://www.justin.tv/chrozzoJussayin Link to post Share on other sites
southsidepoker 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I didnt read any of the responses but this is a no brainer if you voluntarily show one card why should you be forced to show the other. Hell you should be glad u saw one. Link to post Share on other sites
showstopper24 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I accidentily voted 'yes', but I meant 'no'. Link to post Share on other sites
AndyZ28 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Most retarded conversation ever...This made me laugh out loud. I honestly got a headache from listening to all 6 of them yell, not talk, but yell about this for 4 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Most retarded conversation ever...you mind giving your thoughts on the situation?maybe in the other thread so this one doesn't get derailed Link to post Share on other sites
steve73 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 noand heads up you should be able to play your cards face up the entire time if want, not that you would, i don't think Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 NO.And LOL at that PAD link.... (man I despise Grizzle) Link to post Share on other sites
NonZeroPossibility 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 So Daniel, who asked to see both your cards after you flashed an ace? There has to be a story.... Link to post Share on other sites
13CARDS 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 PLEASE BAN ME, MODS!! Link to post Share on other sites
EStormOk 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 That rule is the single best reason I can think of to never show a card unless it is in a pot that has went to showdown. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinciKid 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 As a floor, I 100% agree with DN that when only one card is shown, there is no need to show the other card IN AN UNCONTESTED POT.As a floor and as a player, I USED to agree 100% with DN that during a tournament, in a heads up situation (other than the Final Two), a player should be allowed to show one or both of his hole cards to his opponent. HOWEVER... I now take Savage's stand and believe that this should not be allowed during tournaments. I'd like to hear your reasoning on the bolded part. I certainly don't think you should have to show both cards if you show one in an uncontested pot. I may sometimes do something like show an Ace, to try to develop or keep a tight image and I don't see why anybody needs to see my other card. I also don't really see why you shouldn't be able to show your cards to another player in order to get a reaction in a tournament. Personally, I'd never do it because I don't read people all that well, and I don't think it would give me any advantage at all, but I can see it having utility and I don't see why it should be disallowed. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I'd like to hear your reasoning on the bolded part. I certainly don't think you should have to show both cards if you show one in an uncontested pot. I may sometimes do something like show an Ace, to try to develop or keep a tight image and I don't see why anybody needs to see my other card. I also don't really see why you shouldn't be able to show your cards to another player in order to get a reaction in a tournament. Personally, I'd never do it because I don't read people all that well, and I don't think it would give me any advantage at all, but I can see it having utility and I don't see why it should be disallowed.he's confusing it with 2 players still playing a pot and showing your cards while in a hand. Link to post Share on other sites
defy 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 voted yes..meant to vote no..lawl Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I voted yes because sometimes terrorist will use the show one card ploy to transfer huge amounts of money over the internet and undermind the war on terror.So if you unpatriotic mooks want to keep on supporting terrorist, you can do it without me! Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 What's funny is some people try to pull this in a cash game. Ridiculous.When I was in LA, I was playing in a 5/10 NLHE game. I think I may've played with the pissiest person ever. He was an angry maniac. I remember he lost a pot and the dealer was trying to sort out the stacks. Trying to be helpful, I reached out a little and pointed at an easy way to even them...he essentially slapped (aggressively backhanded) my hand back in a "mind your own business" way. A little later, a guy showed one card as he threw his cards in after winning an uncontested pot...the guy immediately reached out into the middle of the table and flipped up the other card. That happened a couple of times...and I thought it was pretty ridiculous. Asking the dealer to show the other card is a little more acceptable, I think. Link to post Share on other sites
r0llin_game 2 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 When I was in LA, I was playing in a 5/10 NLHE game. I think I may've played with the pissiest person ever. He was an angry maniac. I remember he lost a pot and the dealer was trying to sort out the stacks. Trying to be helpful, I reached out a little and pointed at an easy way to even them...he essentially slapped (aggressively backhanded) my hand back in a "mind your own business" way. A little later, a guy showed one card as he threw his cards in after winning an uncontested pot...the guy immediately reached out into the middle of the table and flipped up the other card. That happened a couple of times...and I thought it was pretty ridiculous. Asking the dealer to show the other card is a little more acceptable, I think. his way is more conventional Link to post Share on other sites
Jariso13 1 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Yes. You should be able to see the other card...Why??? Because you are playing on Pokerstars and you can either show both or none...maybe this should be fixed in the future?? Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 When I was in LA, I was playing in a 5/10 NLHE game. I think I may've played with the pissiest person ever. He was an angry maniac. I remember he lost a pot and the dealer was trying to sort out the stacks. Trying to be helpful, I reached out a little and pointed at an easy way to even them...he essentially slapped (aggressively backhanded) my hand back in a "mind your own business" way. A little later, a guy showed one card as he threw his cards in after winning an uncontested pot...the guy immediately reached out into the middle of the table and flipped up the other card. That happened a couple of times...and I thought it was pretty ridiculous. Asking the dealer to show the other card is a little more acceptable, I think.1. wow2. This would be an issue for me. The floor would get involved if the dealer didn't back me up. The second time, I'd be the one to yell FLOOR and expect him to be removed from the game. He'd have to be a HUGE fish for me to put up with this non-sense. L.A. doesn't have this show one card, show both rule for the cash games too, do they? Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 He'd have to be a HUGE fish for me to put up with this non-sense. L.A. doesn't have this show one card, show both rule for the cash games too, do they?Yeah...that was pretty much the issue...he was a huge fish and blowing off gobs of money, so despite the fact that he was a jackass, I wanted him to continue playing. My impression based on the fact that the dealer didn't reprimand him is that Commerce does have that rule for cash games. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Yeah...that was pretty much the issue...he was a huge fish and blowing off gobs of money, so despite the fact that he was a jackass, I wanted him to continue playing. My impression based on the fact that the dealer didn't reprimand him is that Commerce does have that rule for cash games. Your impression should be that the dealers at the Commerce do nothing to control the game or players at the table. Link to post Share on other sites
20TN40 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Funny that you ask this...I'm watching an old WPT (the Borgata Poker Open) and you just showed Josh Arieh the Qd on a 9d9c7s8d9h board...so great! So, no I don't think you should have to show the Qc...great for the game. NH!Me too, Scul and I thought Josh's reaction was priceless..............."You couldn't have a pair of Q's because you never have a hand that good" Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodAFD 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 No... not sure what the YES votes have in mind here.On almost a completely different note.... I was playing at Stardust one time and a guy went to the river with this nice old lady and he called her bet...showed his cards.. she smiled and started to muck hers. He then, being the ass that he was, DEMANDED to see her cards. "No way! I called her! I want to see what the f&*# she was betting on". So the dealer demanded that she reveal since she had been called and low and behold...she had the winning hand but didn't realize it. Ergo...she won the pot.Be careful what you ask for.Not completely on topic...but you get the point. Link to post Share on other sites
13CARDS 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 PLEASE BAN ME, MODS!! Link to post Share on other sites
RhinestoneCowboy 2 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 UNCONTESTED POTS------------------------In any uncontested pot, during a tournament or cash game, the winning player should be allowed to show no cards, one card, all cards or some cards without penalty and without showing any other card(s).A players folding his hand (and therefore conceding an uncontested pot) should be allowed to show no cards, one card, all cards or some cards without penalty and without showing any other card(s) SO LONG AS THERE NO ACTION AFTER THAT PLAYER. Intentionally exposing a card or cards with players left to act behind you is very bad etiquette and should not be tolerated.Isn't this an arguement for a solid "no" vote in this question? We are talking about uncontested pots...Edit: That video is a different situation. Link to post Share on other sites
MrSputter 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I accidentily voted 'yes', but I meant 'no'.Sounds like me.After I clicked I said @$%!, then thought what is the difference than online:1. You can't get a reaction online but through chat, which is weak2. Can't fight the programming3. If it goes to the end you can look it up in the history, can't muck. Link to post Share on other sites
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