serge 904 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 It's only an issue when you're a die-hard fan of one of a crappy hockey product like the Toronto Maple Leafs and the only thing in which you can take solace in is the fact that they are a successful business.How is this relevant..At least Angry Steve and Hurricane Arp have legitimate arguments..If you are fine with more than half the teams in the NHL bleeding money then thats fine...Lets move on. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share Posted January 24, 2011 How is this relevant..At least Angry Steve and Hurricane Arp have legitimate arguments..If you are fine with more than half the teams in the NHL bleeding money then thats fine...Lets move on.We've been down this road before. I'm not fine with it AND I'm not un-fine with it. I don't ****ing care. The Islanders' low attendance means about as much to me as the Leafs selling out every game...diddly squat!I still don't understand why it's an issue for you? Is this just one of those topics you just like to bring up from time to time when you're bored and looking for an argument? Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 We've been down this road before. I'm not fine with it AND I'm not un-fine with it. I don't ****ing care. The Islanders' low attendance means about as much to me as the Leafs selling out every game...diddly squat!I still don't understand why it's an issue for you? Is this just one of those topics you just like to bring up from time to time when you're bored and looking for an argument?I think its a major issue that the NHL has to deal with, before moving on into bigger and better things.Its something Bettman has chosen to ignore and sweep under the rug. Were you ok with missing out on hockey for a year? Because this issue was partly to blame for it..The salary cap was negotiated partly because to help the struggling franchises to compete with the big markets in the NHL.As a fan of the Toronto Maple Leafs my major concern is to improve the on ice product, so yes it shouldnt be an issue..However for the NHL as a whole and for the commissioner it should be a HUGE issue. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share Posted January 24, 2011 I think its a major issue that the NHL has to deal with, before moving on into bigger and better things.Its something Bettman has chosen to ignore and sweep under the rug. Were you ok with missing out on hockey for a year? Because this issue was partly to blame for it..The salary cap was negotiated partly because to help the struggling franchises to compete with the big markets in the NHL.As a fan of the Toronto Maple Leafs my major concern is to improve the on ice product, so yes it shouldnt be an issue..However for the NHL as a whole and for the commissioner it should be a HUGE issue.No I didn't like not having hockey for a year, but I like having a salary cap. I don't want the NHL to become like MLB where lower spending teams start the season at a disadvantage to teams like the Yankees. I think attendance had very little to do with the strike and the cap. NHL teams are businesses. If they continue to have low attendance then they will lose money. If this jeopardized the NHL then I'm quite certain there would be a sense of urgency to do something about it. The Phoenix Coyotes could probably move to Hamilton tomorrow and sell out every home game. The NHL has continually put a stop to this. That tells me the situation in Phoenix is not a threat to the league's existence. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 No I didn't like not having hockey for a year, but I like having a salary cap. I don't want the NHL to become like MLB where lower spending teams start the season at a disadvantage to teams like the Yankees. I think attendance had very little to do with the strike and the cap. NHL teams are businesses. If they continue to have low attendance then they will lose money. If this jeopardized the NHL then I'm quite certain there would be a sense of urgency to do something about it. The Phoenix Coyotes could probably move to Hamilton tomorrow and sell out every home game. The NHL has continually put a stop to this. That tells me the situation in Phoenix is not a threat to the league's existence. You are assuming they are doing the right thing. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 You are assuming they are doing the right thing.Sorry but you are assuming they are doing the wrong thing. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Sorry but you are assuming they are doing the wrong thing.because they are..Multi billionnaire succesful businessman offers you boatload of money, existing hockey crazy market ready to go..We will let it go for a team that averages around 10000 people and loses $30 million(approx) a year..Yup thats right. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 With respect to your last comment, I'll respectfully disagree and leave it at that. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 So Serge, which is it?1. You know more about running the NHL than those currently in charge.2. Gary Bettman and his people have a secret agenda to kill the NHL. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 So Serge, which is it?1. You know more about running the NHL than those currently in charge.2. Gary Bettman and his people have a secret agenda to kill the NHL.Neither... Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Neither...So do you have a full extra 21st chromosome or just a partial one? Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 So do you have a full extra 21st chromosome or just a partial one?partial Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Happy 21st Birthday Mr Stamkos..40 goals and leading candidate for Art Ross,Rocket Richard and MVP all in the same year.Congratulations and thank you. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405...article_related Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted February 26, 2011 Author Share Posted February 26, 2011 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405...article_relatedHe's pretty good. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 So Serge, which is it?1. You know more about running the NHL than those currently in charge.2. Gary Bettman and his people have a secret agenda to kill the NHL. Yes!!! Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 Stamkos speaks:http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/sports/c...ead-shot-issue/Excerpt:"You know what you are doing when you hit a guy, and a lot of people say it’s a fast paced game and for an outsider, it is fast. But for us it does slow down a little bit and you do have that split-second to realize what you are doing." Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 How much will Stamkos get?Speculation is he is looking for $7 million on a long term contract..10 years?12 years?I think the Lightning are playing with fire, because as soon as July 1 hits the ridicolous contracts could come in..how about 10 years $100 million.We all know the Rangers are loopy and they will open up the vault if they need to.Other question is if you are a franchise would you give up 5 first rounders for Stamkos? Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I wouldn't give up 5 first rounders for anybody.Look at where the oilers would be today if Buffalo hadn't matched their offer sheet for Vanek.Also, If I'm Stamkos, I'm accepting nothing less than $10 million per season on a 5+ year deal. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Other question is if you are a franchise would you give up 5 first rounders for Stamkos?Am I Carolina? In a second.In fact, Im finding it hard to come up with a franchise I wouldnt do that with. The Leafs? How could you not?But again, there isnt a chance in hell Tampa doesnt match.I think he should get at least 9million, for 7-10years. Hell, isnt he better than Drury/Gomez/Redden, all around 8? :)Tough part is, you might not want to lock up long term, but do you really not want to buyout his UFA years in his late 20's? Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Buffalo's next 4 picks (it's 4 first rounders as compensation on offer sheets with a cap hit higher than $7.7 million, as of last season anyway) will almost certainly be in the 15-20 range without Stamkos, and would predictably be in the 20-30 range with Stamkos. I'd be very fine with Buffalo parting with those picks to get a #1 Center / PP weapon who is only 21 years old and already has back to back 45+ goal seasons. It's not the same thing as a horrible team (Edmonton) attempting to deal away picks that would predictably be in the 1-10 range with or without Vanek (they added Penner afterwards who is probably 80% of the player Vanek is and still picked 1-10 the next four years). If Buffalo can actually get Stamkos signed to an offer sheet, I still don't see Tampa doing anything but matching the deal, they simply can't let him go no matter what the terms are. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I wouldn't give up 5 first rounders for anybody.Look at where the oilers would be today if Buffalo hadn't matched their offer sheet for Vanek.Also, If I'm Stamkos, I'm accepting nothing less than $10 million per season on a 5+ year deal.If I am Stamkos I dont sign a long term deal like that in a non traditional hockey market..I know Tampa is fairly strong, but anything can happen..Who knows if Tampa is in the NHL 6 or 7 years down the line..Do the right thing Stamkos..Sign a 3 year deal and then "bolt" to your home town to end your career with a 12 year deal. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I have no doubt that the TBL will be there 7 years from now. You have a great team that should only get better and a good front office that seems to have the right tools to make this team competitive. If they continue at this pace they will get more fans in that stadium each year. If the money is right I would have no issue being the face of that franchise for long term. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I have no doubt that the TBL will be there 7 years from now. You have a great team that should only get better and a good front office that seems to have the right tools to make this team competitive. If they continue at this pace they will get more fans in that stadium each year. If the money is right I would have no issue being the face of that franchise for long term.I know you are right, but there has to be some sort of draw to become a rockstar in your hometown. A place where you grew up, as opposed to playing hockey in Florida.I have said this before but if you are the player that is responsible for bringing a Stanley Cup back to Toronto and being the face of the franchise you are a god , rock star in this city for life and for generations to come.That has to be a little bit of a draw no?Its like if you grew up playing baseball in New York, wouldnt you dream of being the everyday shortstop for the New York Yankees, as opposed to playing in Canada for the Blue Jays. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I know you are right, but there has to be some sort of draw to become a rockstar in your hometown. A place where you grew up, as opposed to playing hockey in Florida.I have said this before but if you are the player that is responsible for bringing a Stanley Cup back to Toronto and being the face of the franchise you are a god , rock star in this city for life and for generations to come.That has to be a little bit of a draw no?Its like if you grew up playing baseball in New York, wouldnt you dream of being the everyday shortstop for the New York Yankees, as opposed to playing in Canada for the Blue Jays.I could see a possible draw to Toronto but have they said they are planning on even trying to give him a contract? Link to post Share on other sites
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