simo_8ball 0 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 For those of you who said fold preflop, is that because of the early position of the raiser? Because I have been generally 3-betting AQo preflop, at least against late position raisers.LP raiser =/= EP raiserLooseish UTG+1 raising range: AJs+, AQo+, KQ, 66+, suited connectors 98s and up.equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 53.186% 48.51% 04.67% 1046648244 100838496.00 { 55+, AJs+, KQs, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, AQo+, KQo }Hand 1: 46.814% 42.14% 04.67% 909177804 100838496.00 { AQo } Tight LP raising range: 55+, ATo+, A9s+, KJ, KQ, 78s+ equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 47.067% 43.28% 03.79% 1325115780 115895844.00 { 55+, A9s+, KJs+, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, ATo+, KJo+ }Hand 1: 52.933% 49.15% 03.79% 1504692084 115895844.00 { AQo } That's with a fairly loose early raising range and a very tight late raising range (the LP opener would have something like 12 VPIP).Most players in LP will open raise hands like J9s or QTs, and hands like A4s. The difference in your equity against their ranges is huge, and you rarely have an early raiser dominated (or at least, he has you dominated more often). Link to post Share on other sites
BuffDan 0 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 LP raiser =/= EP raiserLooseish UTG+1 raising range: AJs+, AQo+, KQ, 66+, suited connectors 98s and up.equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 53.186% 48.51% 04.67% 1046648244 100838496.00 { 55+, AJs+, KQs, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, AQo+, KQo }Hand 1: 46.814% 42.14% 04.67% 909177804 100838496.00 { AQo } Tight LP raising range: 55+, ATo+, A9s+, KJ, KQ, 78s+ equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 47.067% 43.28% 03.79% 1325115780 115895844.00 { 55+, A9s+, KJs+, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, ATo+, KJo+ }Hand 1: 52.933% 49.15% 03.79% 1504692084 115895844.00 { AQo } That's with a fairly loose early raising range and a very tight late raising range (the LP opener would have something like 12 VPIP).Most players in LP will open raise hands like J9s or QTs, and hands like A4s. The difference in your equity against their ranges is huge, and you rarely have an early raiser dominated (or at least, he has you dominated more often). Yeah, and even those seem on the loose/tight side for early/late position respectively. Position, position, position, I just have to keep telling myself that when I play. Link to post Share on other sites
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