avsfan 0 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 You are not missing out on any thing. You can do this to increase recovery though"Contrast Showers/BathsContrast showers and baths are one of the easiest methods for speeding recovery after an intense workout. The hot water stimulates dilation of the blood vessels, while the cold water produces constriction. This contrast effect aids in the mobilization and removal of metabolic wastes, and brings fresh blood and nutrients to the damaged area to speed recovery.The premise here is simple: Treat the area trained most intensely (e.g. low back following heavy deadlifts) with 1 minute of hot water, followed by 30 seconds of cold water; this is considered one circuit. A few simple rules should be adhered to when taking contrast showers and baths: * Hot and cold water should be as hot/cold as tolerable * Perform for 3-5 circuits * Always end with COLD"-from http://robertsontrainingsystems.com/articl...:+Recovery+101/ click for more info on recovery. Link to post Share on other sites
TRB05 1 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Jesus, you have an answer for everything don't you? Well, I usually start warm and progress to cold for about 10 minutes to cool down. Just always wondered if I was slowing my metabolism down significantly to miss out on some burned calories. I'll try the contrasts sometime. Thanks again. Link to post Share on other sites
avsfan 0 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Jesus, you have an answer for everything don't you? Well, I usually start warm and progress to cold for about 10 minutes to cool down. Just always wondered if I was slowing my metabolism down significantly to miss out on some burned calories. I'll try the contrasts sometime. Thanks again.Sometimes I give an answer that is ahead of the question. I wanted to actually give you a answer in regards to something that makes a big difference. In doing that I actually overlooked the real answer to your question. here is a better answer to your question, . cold weather and cold water actually burns more calories than hot weather and Hot water. So the cold is a better metabolic stimulator than hot. which means you are actually getting the most of it. The real way to sabotage your metabolism is to go to sleep soon after working out. the metabolic affects of working out(especially after a leg workout) can last several hours. That is why many professionals workout first thing in the morning. Link to post Share on other sites
socalpoker_j 1 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 You are not missing out on any thing. You can do this to increase recovery though"Contrast Showers/Baths Link to post Share on other sites
gooch 0 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 *bumps knux* Link to post Share on other sites
GrinderMJ 0 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 gonna start bjj this week i think, we have an mma academy about 1 minute away by car and i've always wanted to do it, so meh gl me. Might also try some muay thai stuff depending on how hard the bjj rapes me Link to post Share on other sites
gooch 0 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 gonna start bjj this week i think, we have an mma academy about 1 minute away by car and i've always wanted to do it, so meh gl me. Might also try some muay thai stuff depending on how hard the bjj rapes mehaving done both i find bjj is a lot harder physically, but both would be great Link to post Share on other sites
GrinderMJ 0 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 any advice that you wish you had before you started? Link to post Share on other sites
socalpoker_j 1 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 any advice that you wish you had before you started?Work on your flexibility, don't have an ego, and just soak up as much as you can. Are you doing gi or no gi? Link to post Share on other sites
avsfan 0 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Well done sir. Link to post Share on other sites
gooch 0 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 any advice that you wish you had before you started?if you don't get these from your teacher then just remember these small mantras-position before submissionsand -angles make stranglesgi is a much slower game that imo is a benefit to start with if possible, then move to no gi, your positioning will be much better that way i think Link to post Share on other sites
GrinderMJ 0 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Will be starting with the gi. First class is tomorrow evening, if I enjoy it and don't get mangled too hard I'm going to get the unlimited classes for a month, and probably try to do about 3 classes a week, if possible, with an occasional mma class in addition to muay thai/bjj. Dude mentioned that wearing a cup is optional, but for you guys who have rolled quite a bit, what do you think? Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Hi guys, just a few random questions1) For upper body work, is it best to work your way from top to bottom, or bottom to top? eg. start with shoulders, end with abs or start with abs, end with shoulders. Or does it make any difference?2) Is there a sizeable advantage to using free weights as opposed to machines? Why is this?3) Using the leg curl machine, for the final few reps, I often have to push so hard that my back slightly curls. I assume this is wrong. Is the weight I use too much? Any general advice for this?4) Any tips for the arms, biceps specifically? I feel that I am not very familiar with the best excercises to do so as to increase arm power. Also incidentally, what is the best excercise to increase power for arm-wrestling?Thanks for responses Link to post Share on other sites
socalpoker_j 1 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Will be starting with the gi. First class is tomorrow evening, if I enjoy it and don't get mangled too hard I'm going to get the unlimited classes for a month, and probably try to do about 3 classes a week, if possible, with an occasional mma class in addition to muay thai/bjj. Dude mentioned that wearing a cup is optional, but for you guys who have rolled quite a bit, what do you think?I use this and find it really comfortable. Def a good investment after you've taken feet to the groin.http://www.budovideos.com/shop/customer/pr...=500&page=1If you decide that you're going to stick with jiu-jitsu also look at picking up some rash guards. Link to post Share on other sites
Napa_Don 688 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I use this and find it really comfortable. Def a good investment after you've taken feet to the groin.http://www.budovideos.com/shop/customer/pr...=500&page=1If you decide that you're going to stick with jiu-jitsu also look at picking up some rash guards.get on aim pllllleeeeassseee Link to post Share on other sites
gooch 0 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Will be starting with the gi. First class is tomorrow evening, if I enjoy it and don't get mangled too hard I'm going to get the unlimited classes for a month, and probably try to do about 3 classes a week, if possible, with an occasional mma class in addition to muay thai/bjj. Dude mentioned that wearing a cup is optional, but for you guys who have rolled quite a bit, what do you think?i don't wear one myself for jits, i find it helps me work my technique betterfor muay thai yes, i can take a kick or a punch but a knee to the groin is where i draw the line Link to post Share on other sites
gooch 0 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Hi guys, just a few random questions1) For upper body work, is it best to work your way from top to bottom, or bottom to top? eg. start with shoulders, end with abs or start with abs, end with shoulders. Or does it make any difference?2) Is there a sizeable advantage to using free weights as opposed to machines? Why is this?3) Using the leg curl machine, for the final few reps, I often have to push so hard that my back slightly curls. I assume this is wrong. Is the weight I use too much? Any general advice for this?4) Any tips for the arms, biceps specifically? I feel that I am not very familiar with the best excercises to do so as to increase arm power. Also incidentally, what is the best excercise to increase power for arm-wrestling?Thanks for responses1. start with biggest muscle first, then work your way down in size(chest or back first)2. imo yes, you work more muscles with free weights3. cleaner movements are better, but cheating the last few reps won't kill you4. no idea about arm wrestling but chin ups of all varieties are great to add to the normal curl, hammer curl, close and wide grip curls routines Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 1. start with biggest muscle first, then work your way down in size(chest or back first)2. imo yes, you work more muscles with free weights3. cleaner movements are better, but cheating the last few reps won't kill you4. no idea about arm wrestling but chin ups of all varieties are great to add to the normal curl, hammer curl, close and wide grip curls routinesthanks Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 did a spin class sat morning. not as fun as i thought. those bikes really hurt my crotch Link to post Share on other sites
gooch 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 thanksno worriesdid a spin class sat morning. not as fun as i thought. those bikes really hurt my crotchyour seat wasn't set up properly then, adjust it next time and you'll be good to go Link to post Share on other sites
GrinderMJ 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 oh man i got bjj raped, lol Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 no worriesyour seat wasn't set up properly then, adjust it next time and you'll be good to goseat prob too high? Link to post Share on other sites
Randy Reed 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 oh man i got bjj raped, lolseat probably too high? Link to post Share on other sites
gooch 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 oh man i got bjj raped, lollets hear it bro Link to post Share on other sites
gooch 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 seat prob too high?could be, your leg should almost fully extend in the bottom positions without having to move your body to one side or another, you can also adjust the seat forward or back too, imo i want to be on the seat, but leaning a bit more towards it being back more, meaning the less seat i touch the better, if the seat is too far forward it causes problems Link to post Share on other sites
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