AcesOnFire 0 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 My 3rd hand at the table...PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)Button ($41.50)Hero ($48.75)BB ($37.40)UTG ($12.30)MP ($47.75)CO ($15.15)Preflop: Hero is SB with , . 2 folds, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.5, 1 fold, CO folds, Button calls $2.Flop: ($6) , , (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $2, Hero raises to $5, Button calls $3.Turn: ($16) (2 players)Hero bets $9, Button calls $9.River: ($34) (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $25 (All-In),Final Pot: $59Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Your flop play is icky.I don't like your turn or river play either. Link to post Share on other sites
AcesOnFire 0 Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 Your flop play is icky.I don't like your turn or river play either.... because?The flop check is icky, I agree. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I hate the flop c/r, bet sizing included.The turn bet size is too small.Just shove the river if you're gonna play the hand like this. Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Bet out the flop.Bet more on the turn.Bet out on the river.This was not played well. Smart players are shoving the river just because you check. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Why did you c/r the flop?Without a read, i don't really see what you're trying to acomplish by attempting a check/raise, i think you get more value by just betting out here.Once you played the flop like you did, i'd bet more on the turn because i don't think he's going to fold any hands for $4 more after calling the flop raise.I have a feeling this is an oddly played AJ by the villain... Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Bigger bets on each street. Including pf. I raise it up to $3.5 pf, then bet out flop hard, I'd call a shove because it could be AJ or hearts and is more often than it is AQ or set. If called I'd be betting enough on the turn to commit me, most likely.That C/R is horrible because it creates no fold equity, kind of turns your hand face up, and bloats a pot out of position. Generally I'm not C/R here unless I'm against an aggro player that makes real bets, $2 into $7 isn't a great spot to C/R. I'd rather lead/lead/lead than go for C/R. But I'm very aggro when I play and get called light because of it.When playing OOP preflop I want to charge the people who have worse hands than me quite a bit, $2.5 is 5xbb, but that's less than I'd open with IN position, standard opening should be 4xbb +1 for each limper, you have 2 limpers and are out of position so I think it should be up to 7-8xbb. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 ... because?If you're checkraising the flop you need to price out draws. You're making him call $3 into $13, with some decent implied odds if he catches 2 pair, a straight or a flush.Actually, given that your hand is quite transparent I don't mind the smallish turn bet.Bet/folding the river is better than check/calling because there's little in his range for him to bluff with but a lot for him to call with. Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 If you're checkraising the flop you need to price out draws. You're making him call $3 into $13, with some decent implied odds if he catches 2 pair, a straight or a flush.Actually, given that your hand is quite transparent I don't mind the smallish turn bet.Bet/folding the river is better than check/calling because there's little in his range for him to bluff with but a lot for him to call with.Heart draws...? KJd? I'm more likely to put him on that or a Q. And what else is he gonna call a 3rd barrel with? MAAAAAAAAAAYBE AJ. If he's competent he won't be calling a shove with AJThere are times where you should be value checking, I don't think this is one of them. Our hand is a little too strong for that. I would play AJ this way (betting bigger on every street too)At 50 NL where people will call with any ace I agree this is a bet, but I'm not sure about at even 200 NL where people play so tight and can fold AJ. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I hate the flop c/r, bet sizing included.The turn bet size is too small.Just shove the river if you're gonna play the hand like this.Bet the flop, and do not check the river as played, just shove.I guess if you think he's capable of bluff shoving, you could instacheck/call his river shove to get value out of a missed draw. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Errrmmm...For some reason I thought the river was a heart. Go figure. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Errrmmm...For some reason I thought the river was a heart. Go figure.People in England have black hearts? Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Errrmmm...For some reason I thought the river was a heart. Go figure.I can see where that's coming from Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Bet out the flop.Bet more on the turn.Bet out on the river.This was not played well. Smart players are shoving the riverING TWO PAIR just because you checkED THEM DOWN.FYPBet more with TPTK on the flop. Seriously. Link to post Share on other sites
NonZeroPossibility 0 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Unless Villain is total aggro idiot, then don't play AK like this. I bet he had A6, right? Link to post Share on other sites
00timh 0 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Hard to laydown as backwards as you have played this. Any ace will shove here, thinking they are best even if they do not have 2pair. They might even think KQ is good here. Call and hope because it is 50/50 that you have the best hand. BTW, you are also getting over 2 to 1 so that more or less makes it an insta call without a draw completed or paired board. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Unless Villain is total aggro idiot, then don't play AK like this. I bet he had A6, right?I bet it doesn't matter what he had, right?The hand was still icky. Link to post Share on other sites
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