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A Timid Play With Qq Out Of Position


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Reads:BB is a very good player - aggressive, mixes up his game wellButton is a donkey - slowly loosing all his money to BB (I was breaking even), calls too much, bluffs too much, plays too many hands (actually - plays MOST hands).Prima Poker skinLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $2/$46 playersConverterPre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with Q :D Q :D3 folds, Button calls, Hero raises, BB calls, Button calls.Flop: 5 :D 5 :D T :) (5.5SB, 3 players)Hero bets, BB raises, Button 3-bets, Hero calls, BB calls.I wasn't scared of BB with that flop - if button folds, I definitely reraise him. But the donkey on the button could be playing anything - including having some 5. Would he try to bluff two opponents who have both raised? So I panic a bit and call. I'm sure that was a mistake. But given I made that mistake, how bad did I screw up the rest of the hand?Turn: 9 :) (7.25BB, 3 players)Hero checks, BB checks, Button bets, Hero calls, BB calls.The turn has a third club. Suited cards is definitely something BB could be playing. Now I'm scared of him too. And donkey will still be acting like he has the 5. I'm confused and go into call down mode.River: J :club: (10.25BB, 3 players)Hero checks, BB checks, Button checks.Results:Final pot: 10.25BB

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I see very little reason not to cap this flop.Gaining an extra bet from two opponents when we are very likely ahead is how we make money.I then lead the flop with my overpair and Q-high Flush Draw.And call down after any raise.--CM

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With your read on the button being spewy I think a strong case could be made for capping the flop to get the pot heads up.Capping defines the buttons hand somewhat more and allows you to make easier decisions.

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With your read on the button being spewy I think a strong case could be made for capping the flop to get the pot heads up.Capping defines the buttons hand somewhat more and allows you to make easier decisions.
I don't think capping the flop is going to fold out many of the BBs possible holdings at all.
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Who said anything about folding out the BB?
With your read on the button being spewy I think a strong case could be made for capping the flop to get the pot heads up.
He's not making the button fold here, so the only other person he could aim to knock out is the BB who would be faced with two cold.
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Either way, we're not trying to fold him, although it wouldn't be a completely awful result. He probably has 2-5 outs if he doesn't have the 5.
Yes, which is the point i was making.
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