longshottwelve 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Saw this article this morning. Sounds like LDS is conceding to scientific evidence. Guess it's a pretty big deal, thought I'd share.Mormons change stance on American Indians Link to post Share on other sites
Loismustdie 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Saw this article this morning. Sounds like LDS is conceding to scientific evidence. Guess it's a pretty big deal, thought I'd share.Mormons change stance on American Indians Religous organizations change what they teach all of the time to agree more with society. Apparently, in there view God has the ability to look the other way when you change his word. Or, in this case the Angel Moroni as heard by Joseph Smith. Link to post Share on other sites
colonel Feathers 5 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Does anyone know the purpose of the magical underwear mormons use. And what special powers if any do they give to the wearer? Link to post Share on other sites
longshottwelve 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 Does anyone know the purpose of the magical underwear mormons use. And what special powers if any do they give to the wearer?As far as I know they protect from all manner of things ranging from the physical to the metaphysical. I know Steve Young tells a story of about getting clobbered by a lineman and not sustaining any injury due to the underwear. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Does anyone know the purpose of the magical underwear mormons use. And what special powers if any do they give to the wearer?+5 defense+12 magic resistance Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 +5 defense+12 magic resistance Link to post Share on other sites
jmkiser 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 +5 defense+12 magic resistance-x intelligence accumulated per turn. Roll 5 d12's to find the total loss each round. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I remember reading that after the mormon church hired an ad agency to help them with their image, they made many changes to their religion.One of the things they changed was that if a black man becomes a mormon, and stays faightful, his skin will lighten until he becomes white.That and they changed their endowment ceremonyBut I am curious why you added the sub heading to this, since it is not base on any facts and is in fact completely false. Link to post Share on other sites
longshottwelve 0 Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 But I am curious why you added the sub heading to this, since it is not base on any facts and is in fact completely false.I meant Christianity as a whole not specific denominations. I'm speaking of versions of the Bible, which there are many. Different denominations, such as Jehovah's Witnesses will translate the Bible to fit specific beliefs, for example their text does not refer to God as God, but YHWH which I can only assume is short for Yahweh, God's unspeakable name. There are versions of the Bible that have Jesus crucified on a stake rather than a cross. Holy Spirit vs. Holy Ghost. LDS may be altering a word, but I doubt some of the compounds up in Utah are.EDIT: Honestly, I had a feeling it would be taken the wrong way the instant I posted it. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I meant Christianity as a whole not specific denominations. I'm speaking of versions of the Bible, which there are many. Different denominations, such as Jehovah's Witnesses will translate the Bible to fit specific beliefs, for example their text does not refer to God as God, but YHWH which I can only assume is short for Yahweh, God's unspeakable name. There are versions of the Bible that have Jesus crucified on a stake rather than a cross. Holy Spirit vs. Holy Ghost. LDS may be altering a word, but I doubt some of the compounds up in Utah are.EDIT: Honestly, I had a feeling it would be taken the wrong way the instant I posted it.Well to be honest, there are really very few 'tranlsations' that are responsible for changing the message.You named the only one I can think of, JWs.(I have a copy of the court transcripts where the head guy in charge of translating the New World Translation (JWs) admits under oath that he doesn't know how to read or write Hebrew or Greek)Of the other translations, there are really only ways of saying the same thing. The NIV isn't doctrinally different than the KJV or the NASB etc.I see many people not understanding that a translation doesn't mean different meanings, only different ways of saying the same thing.But if I was being over sensitive than I appologize, I get grumpy after flying coach. Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodAFD 0 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Does anyone know the purpose of the magical underwear mormons use. And what special powers if any do they give to the wearer?Bahahaha... I only know about this because I work with a mormon.He says that the underwear is to remind them to always be pure, hence the white, and the stitching is also to remind them of their faith.Now...maybe he isn't telling me everything..I dunno. I did get a Mason to show me the secret hand shake one time though.Anyhoooo.. if I was in sales, I would target the mormon community. They can be sold ANYTHING.IMO Link to post Share on other sites
longshottwelve 0 Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 Well to be honest, there are really very few 'tranlsations' that are responsible for changing the message.I'd go as far as saying none of the translations change the message of Jesus at all, just as I don't think this alteration is going to change the underlying message in the Mormon religion. Unfortunately, people do fight over these kind of things. I grew up Catholic, and when I was ten someone gave me a Bible illustrating Jesus being crucified on a stake. I showed my Grandmother and she threw the thing out saying it was blasphemous. If Jesus is the Messiah, I don't think it matters whether he was crucified or beaten to death, his purpose remains the same.When Martin Luther translated the Bible from Latin, I wonder if he anticipated people nitpicking whether Jesus turned water into cabernet or merlot.(I have a copy of the court transcripts where the head guy in charge of translating the New World Translation (JWs) admits under oath that he doesn't know how to read or write Hebrew or Greek)That's funny. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I'd go as far as saying none of the translations change the message of Jesus at all, just as I don't think this alteration is going to change the underlying message in the Mormon religion. Unfortunately, people do fight over these kind of things.One of the changes the Mormons had to make to their book of Mormon was when they realized that the places where it quoted people saying: "In Matthew Chapter such and such, verse such and such" were all supposed to have been made 1300 years before the bible was given chapters and verses.There is an interesting book called the Mormon Murders about a guy that forged documents and he figured out that the Mormon church would pay big money for anything that made them look bad, so he heard about old manuscripts that showed old Joe and his sinful ways and he told them he found a copy and as a good mormon he wanted to sell them to the church to protect joe smith etc. Eventually he got sloppy, people died etc. It's actually a crime drama not a religious book.But the whole book is about how the mormon church is buying up all documents that shows them to be the false religion that they are. If you can get an old 1st edition book of mormon, you can make a pretty penny. Link to post Share on other sites
Loismustdie 0 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 One of the changes the Mormons had to make to their book of Mormon was when they realized that the places where it quoted people saying: "In Matthew Chapter such and such, verse such and such" were all supposed to have been made 1300 years before the bible was given chapters and verses.There is an interesting book called the Mormon Murders about a guy that forged documents and he figured out that the Mormon church would pay big money for anything that made them look bad, so he heard about old manuscripts that showed old Joe and his sinful ways and he told them he found a copy and as a good mormon he wanted to sell them to the church to protect joe smith etc. Eventually he got sloppy, people died etc. It's actually a crime drama not a religious book.But the whole book is about how the mormon church is buying up all documents that shows them to be the false religion that they are. If you can get an old 1st edition book of mormon, you can make a pretty penny. Catholics aren't nearly as nice- early Bibles produced by The Vatican literally put lines through scriptures they disagreed with. So, instead of words, just lines. What I don't get is, nobody asked what they were before? Link to post Share on other sites
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