makeyourself 0 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I was looking into the points system of full tilt (http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/fullTiltPoints.php) and it states you get 1 point for every dollar of rake that is dropped....So to get a sweater for 8000 points I would have to give full tilt 8000$ in rake?! I realise that atm they offer double points or smething so TECHNICALLY atm its 4k.. but thats sick. Added onto the fact that if you don't have rake back, like me, you have technically lost about 25% more....My question is, have my math skills left me for a hangover or do full tilt just rob you blind with promotions?sam Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I think you answered your own question..."for every dollar of rake that is dropped" meaning not that you have to give it, just that you have to have been sitting at the table when it was. I've been wrong before though and I am only 48% confident in this answer. I did no research either, by the way Link to post Share on other sites
MyPlayIsRAB 0 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 i found you have to do a lot more playing on ftp to get anything worthwhile compared to stars Link to post Share on other sites
makeyourself 0 Posted January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted January 1, 2008 I think you answered your own question..."for every dollar of rake that is dropped" meaning not that you have to give it, just that you have to have been sitting at the table when it was. I've been wrong before though and I am only 48% confident in this answer. I did no research either, by the wayok so it may not have come from my own pocket... so say if im not 'in the hand' and folded before the flop then everybody who was dealt in get points? or only if you contributed to the pot?because if you have to be 'in' the pot then technically that 8k you could have won and had in you back pocket?... or a sweater Link to post Share on other sites
xzanos 0 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 ok so it may not have come from my own pocket... so say if im not 'in the hand' and folded before the flop then everybody who was dealt in get points? or only if you contributed to the pot?because if you have to be 'in' the pot then technically that 8k you could have won and had in you back pocket?... or a sweater If you are dealt in, you get the pts. Weather you win the hand or not. Weather you play the hand or not. Link to post Share on other sites
Vtlaxer09 4 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 yeard end bonus ftw though... any ftp's u earn in ring games between the 21st and the 5th (check me on that).. they give you what you earned as a lump sum on the 6th. gogogo. Link to post Share on other sites
Ko8e34 0 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I know that for tourney/sng fees, its 7 pts for every $1 sent to FTP. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 yeard end bonus AND RAKEBACK ftw thoughI'll take cash every month over a bunch of free advertising for Pokerstars any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Link to post Share on other sites
fatman 1 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I'll take cash every month over a bunch of free advertising for Pokerstars any day of the week and twice on Sundays.QFMFT Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 8k Stars FPP's have won me like $1800 in $T over the last few months./brag post Link to post Share on other sites
Uniqueuponhim 0 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 You forget that everyone at the table is given FTPs. So at 6-max they give out 6 FTPs per $1 of rake, and in tournaments they give 7 per $1. Therefore that sweater is after about $1200 in rake, not $8000. If the sweater is worth $100 then that basically means an extra 8% ish rakeback Link to post Share on other sites
ShaneO19 0 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 What is nice for low stakes players on FT is that they give partial points. Since I last played there, PS didn't do this and the pot had to be a certain size to recieve any points which basically leaves out the low stakes players. Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 If you are dealt in, you get the pts. Weather you win the hand or not. Weather you play the hand or not.Is this true on Stars, too? I could be playing tighter and still accumulating the same amount of FPPs? Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Is this true on Stars, too? I could be playing tighter and still accumulating the same amount of FPPs? im pretty positive (ohhh 83.5%) that it is the same on stars Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 im pretty positive (ohhh 83.5%) that it is the same on starsWish the Stars FAQ pages weren't so darn cryptic.. I bet they do that on purpose.. It's hard to keep accurate track of FPPs when multi-tabling. Link to post Share on other sites
Lrgetrout 1 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Yes, both Stars' and FTP's points are dealt hands, not contributed. Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Yes, both Stars' and FTP's points are dealt hands, not contributed.Revolutionary.. This makes me a happy panda. Link to post Share on other sites
kkot 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 You forget that everyone at the table is given FTPs. So at 6-max they give out 6 FTPs per $1 of rake, and in tournaments they give 7 per $1. Therefore that sweater is after about $1200 in rake, not $8000. If the sweater is worth $100 then that basically means an extra 8% ish rakebackNot quite. That $100 sweater comes out of your MGR, costing you $27 (it's 27% at FTP, right?) in rakeback. Link to post Share on other sites
E-Cart6 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 The full tilt bonus seems pretty insane and sounds like it takes a long time to get all those 10k points to clear it, especially with 1 point per 1$ of rake instead of 0.40$.Can any1 tell me how much longer it takes to get FTP Points compared to the Stars VPPs? Link to post Share on other sites
SpiderGuard 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 The full tilt bonus seems pretty insane and sounds like it takes a long time to get all those 10k points to clear it, especially with 1 point per 1$ of rake instead of 0.40$.Can any1 tell me how much longer it takes to get FTP Points compared to the Stars VPPs?The benefit of FT is that you get fractional points - PS you don't. For microdonks like me that's better. Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 The full tilt bonus seems pretty insane and sounds like it takes a long time to get all those 10k points to clear it, especially with 1 point per 1$ of rake instead of 0.40$.Can any1 tell me how much longer it takes to get FTP Points compared to the Stars VPPs? The benefit of FT is that you get fractional points - PS you don't. For microdonks like me that's better.I.e. $0.35 in rake = .35 FTP points. As long as you are dealt cards you get the rake dealt in the hand as FTP points. Link to post Share on other sites
Naked_Cowboy 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 briefly, FCP's bonus system was actually based on $ contributed / person, it was so so terrible. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,321 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 briefly, FCP's bonus system was actually based on $ contributed / person, it was so so terrible.It's actually the fairest most equitable bonus system to use, especially when a site is part of a network. That way the players who actually generate the rake are the ones gaining the most benefit and the "bonus whores" who leech off of the system stay away. Link to post Share on other sites
pt special 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 i only play poker for fpp's...win or lose i dont care, as long as i get fpp's Link to post Share on other sites
Naked_Cowboy 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 It's actually the fairest most equitable bonus system to use, especially when a site is part of a network. That way the players who actually generate the rake are the ones gaining the most benefit and the "bonus whores" who leech off of the system stay away.a system where bad players earn bonus faster than good players i don't agree with, but i understand why, as a poker room on a network that is allocating you revenue, it benefits you. Link to post Share on other sites
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