Home Game Etiquette 1 2 Nl

[Dratj 0]

Had a home game today, set the time before the game started to end at 2 am. Stakes 1 2 nl. Mostly regulars, my friend/my chiropractor guy also played (2nd time at this game) also brought along a friend that played for the first time.The game is eight handed for most of the night. At 1:40 am, a couple of hands after he won a big pot, he saids he's got to go (up $600). The only reason he played the extra 2 hands was to pay the blinds and then go, so it woudn't be an immediate hit and run.One of my friends who's a regular tells him he has to stay. He's up money and there's only 20 min. left to the night. Chiro guy gets pissed and saids nobody tells me what to do with my money, I'm leaving for sure now. So, now I'm a little upset and tell him calmly that it is indeed bad etiquette to do what he's doing. There's only 20 min. left and you're up money, it's proper to stay and finish it up. At this point, he reluctantly and in a pissy mood decides to stay. I said forget it, you don't want to stay, we'll just finish up without you. He then leaves and saids that he would have stayed if my other friend didn't make that comment which I don't believe at all. Now, I feel that he kinda hit and run because he's super tight and only plays premium hands. Straight forward poker. Most of us other guys are very LAG and he admits it makes him feel uncomfortable. We push him off a lot of hands. He's overly excited to win pots, bangs on the table instead of calmly scooping in the chips as would be appropriate and takes forever to make a decision when he has a good hand (Hollywooding to induce a call). So, when he did manage to get a decent win out of the night, he decides that's it, I don't want to risk losing it in the last 20 minutes. Was a right in telling him or should I have just kept my mouth shut?

[savagerebel 0]

Had a home game today, set the time before the game started to end at 2 am. Stakes 1 2 nl. Mostly regulars, my friend/my chiropractor guy also played (2nd time at this game) also brought along a friend that played for the first time.The game is eight handed for most of the night. At 1:40 am, a couple of hands after he won a big pot, he saids he's got to go (up $600). The only reason he played the extra 2 hands was to pay the blinds and then go, so it woudn't be an immediate hit and run.One of my friends who's a regular tells him he has to stay. He's up money and there's only 20 min. left to the night. Chiro guy gets pissed and saids nobody tells me what to do with my money, I'm leaving for sure now. So, now I'm a little upset and tell him calmly that it is indeed bad etiquette to do what he's doing. There's only 20 min. left and you're up money, it's proper to stay and finish it up. At this point, he reluctantly and in a pissy mood decides to stay. I said forget it, you don't want to stay, we'll just finish up without you. He then leaves and saids that he would have stayed if my other friend didn't make that comment which I don't believe at all. Now, I feel that he kinda hit and run because he's super tight and only plays premium hands. Straight forward poker. Most of us other guys are very LAG and he admits it makes him feel uncomfortable. We push him off a lot of hands. He's overly excited to win pots, bangs on the table instead of calmly scooping in the chips as would be appropriate and takes forever to make a decision when he has a good hand (Hollywooding to induce a call). So, when he did manage to get a decent win out of the night, he decides that's it, I don't want to risk losing it in the last 20 minutes. Was a right in telling him or should I have just kept my mouth shut?

Do you want him to play at your game again?

[king1305 0]

He's a chiropractor?$600 doesn't mean shit to him.

[Dratj 0]

He's a chiropractor?$600 doesn't mean shit to him.

He's tight with his money.

[TB17 0]

fuck that, i would never want to play in a game that forced me to stay. If I was him I'd never go back. Yes you are completely wrong. Also how is this a hit and run when there's TWENTY minutes left?! Did you guys start at 1 am or something? That's flat out ridiculous. This was extremely wrong and I would never go to a home game like this.

[IWANTTOBERICHDAMMIT 0]

Had a home game today, set the time before the game started to end at 2 am. Stakes 1 2 nl. Mostly regulars, my friend/my chiropractor guy also played (2nd time at this game) also brought along a friend that played for the first time.The game is eight handed for most of the night. At 1:40 am, a couple of hands after he won a big pot, he saids he's got to go (up $600). The only reason he played the extra 2 hands was to pay the blinds and then go, so it woudn't be an immediate hit and run.One of my friends who's a regular tells him he has to stay. He's up money and there's only 20 min. left to the night. Chiro guy gets pissed and saids nobody tells me what to do with my money, I'm leaving for sure now. So, now I'm a little upset and tell him calmly that it is indeed bad etiquette to do what he's doing. There's only 20 min. left and you're up money, it's proper to stay and finish it up. At this point, he reluctantly and in a pissy mood decides to stay. I said forget it, you don't want to stay, we'll just finish up without you. He then leaves and saids that he would have stayed if my other friend didn't make that comment which I don't believe at all. Now, I feel that he kinda hit and run because he's super tight and only plays premium hands. Straight forward poker. Most of us other guys are very LAG and he admits it makes him feel uncomfortable. We push him off a lot of hands. He's overly excited to win pots, bangs on the table instead of calmly scooping in the chips as would be appropriate and takes forever to make a decision when he has a good hand (Hollywooding to induce a call). So, when he did manage to get a decent win out of the night, he decides that's it, I don't want to risk losing it in the last 20 minutes. Was a right in telling him or should I have just kept my mouth shut?

This dude is evidently pretty faggoty. Don't put up with that shit dude.. know how when you're playing in a game online and you stack off, lose, the dude leaves? Don't you want to say something? Beat him with a stick? Insult a deceased family member? Get er done. That dude would have ended up getting smacked at my game.

[IWANTTOBERICHDAMMIT 0]

fuck that, i would never want to play in a game that forced me to stay. If I was him I'd never go back. Yes you are completely wrong. Also how is this a hit and run when there's TWENTY minutes left?! Did you guys start at 1 am or something? That's flat out ridiculous. This was extremely wrong and I would never go to a home game like this.

You're a fan of Jamie Gold, so your opinion is pretty much void.

[southsidepoker 0]

Yeah I think a guy should be allowed to leave with his money whenever he wants. You made him leave with a bad taste in his mouth and probably won't bring that 600 back. IMO you were in the wrong.

[IWANTTOBERICHDAMMIT 0]

Yeah I think a guy should be allowed to leave with his money whenever he wants. You made him leave with a bad taste in his mouth and probably won't bring that 600 back. IMO you were in the wrong.

Am I the only one that has ever played with real poker players? If you're up, you stay.. unless something has come up, like an appointment or something. You have the money, these other guys are probably feeling a little down.. you know, why leave a hot seat? I don't know. I wouldn't just leave with all the money, unless the game ended.. myself or any decent human-being I know.

[TB17 0]

It's not even bad etiquette if he was there from the beginning. Do you insist that people stay when they're down? No? Then why the hell should you when they're up? The guy had 2 buyins, hardly "ALL THE MONEY" on the table. If people were crying that hard that musta meant some others left before hand, because nobody's gonna cry about losing a buyin or so, esp rich doctors.You crossed the line. If you started at 8 pm and he left at 8:40, thats a hit and run. If he stays for 6 hours and doesnt want to finish, that's not a hit and run.That's not bad etiquette.

[vbnautilus 48]

It's not even bad etiquette if he was there from the beginning. Do you insist that people stay when they're down? No? Then why the hell should you when they're up? The guy had 2 buyins, hardly "ALL THE MONEY" on the table. If people were crying that hard that musta meant some others left before hand, because nobody's gonna cry about losing a buyin or so, esp rich doctors.You crossed the line. If you started at 8 pm and he left at 8:40, thats a hit and run. If he stays for 6 hours and doesnt want to finish, that's not a hit and run.That's not bad etiquette.

agree. also its not clear to me why everyone cares so much that he stays for 20 minutes??

[XXEddie 0]

The home game I play in has a rule. If your winning, you must stay 2 hours. Which i think is a solid rule. So if this guy got there 30 min ago I agree, he should be forced to stay. But if he hd been there for a while he can leave whenever he wants

[Jdr999 0]

The home game I play in has a rule. If your winning, you must stay 2 hours. Which i think is a solid rule. So if this guy got there 30 min ago I agree, he should be forced to stay. But if he hd been there for a while he can leave whenever he wants

2 hours is a bit extreme. Here's what a home game I go to uses to prevent big winners from leaving quickly: call 30 minutes before you leave. Rarely have problems with this.

[simo_8ball 0]

I had a similar situation a while back.Playing in an informal weekly £1/£2nl game at my local pub, most had sat with around £40-£60, and I sat with £80 to cover (yeah, it's a real short-buy game, but it's the only one around). We started at about 10:30pm, and the game was due to finish at about 3am. I ended up winning a couple of decent sized pots at around 2am, and was sat with £200ish. At that point, my mate (he wasn't in the game) who was driving announced that he was going in 15 mins. Because it was either get a free lift with him or get a taxi for £10 a little later, I decided to leave the game.Unfortunately, the game goes so damn slow that there had only been 2-3 hands dealt since I had won those pots, and they got pissed off that I was leaving. Actually, I think they were mostly pissed off that in a game populated by 40-60 year olds, some punk kid was winning and they wanted a chance to get their money back. One guy threatened under his breath to not allow me to play there anymore, even though it wasn't his game (nothing to do with the fact that I'd just felted him, obv). They weren't used to people leaving the game early unless they had no money left, apparently.I know these guys pretty well, and they knew that my mate was the driver. I explained that I wasn't turning down a free lift, that I'd given 15 minutes notice, and that it's a cash game so I should be able to leave if I wish. I also pointed out that I would have left regardless of how I'd been doing. My being in profit had no influence on my decision.I think I was well within my rights to leave at that point, under the circumstances.

[mase_gotsem 0]

This dude is evidently pretty faggoty. Don't put up with that shit dude.. know how when you're playing in a game online and you stack off, lose, the dude leaves? Don't you want to say something? Beat him with a stick? Insult a deceased family member? Get er done. That dude would have ended up getting smacked at my game.

lol tuff guy i think you were out of line for making him stay if theres only 20 minutes left even if there was an hour left .. it all depends on how long he was there for if hes been there under an hour then thats def a hit and run and id not invite him back ever again

[mase_gotsem 0]

You're a fan of Jamie Gold, so your opinion is pretty much void.

kettle meet pot .. ACROSS THE EYES !!

[Sick Boy 0]

OP come on man, its 20minutes.

[jethrodull 0]

20 minutes left with a super tight player..you might see him in 1 more hand....big deal, let him go, wish him well, congrats and can't wait to see you next time....oh, and do you have any more of your rich doctor friends?????J

[Cappy37 0]

Tough spot. I look at these things from a "bird's eye view" impartially, and I have to agree with both points of view:1. ) He's slightly out of line bailing that quickly after a big pot. He's likely not a regular home game player (outside of your home game, I mean).2. ) You guys are out of line for attempting to force him to stay. I can't emphasize this enough. Some people form relationships, others take hostages. You guys were attempting to take a hostage, and it's likely going to cost you a relationship. Of course, his mega-tight ultra-annyoing-needle game isn't well matched for your group of lagtards, anyways. As good as implied odds are going up against him, it's not incredibly +EV to have him sit down over a normal fish. No one on HSP seemed too sad to see Bob Stupak go, for much the same line of reasoning.

[Dratj 0]

It's not even bad etiquette if he was there from the beginning. Do you insist that people stay when they're down? No? Then why the hell should you when they're up? The guy had 2 buyins, hardly "ALL THE MONEY" on the table. If people were crying that hard that musta meant some others left before hand, because nobody's gonna cry about losing a buyin or so, esp rich doctors.You crossed the line. If you started at 8 pm and he left at 8:40, thats a hit and run. If he stays for 6 hours and doesnt want to finish, that's not a hit and run.That's not bad etiquette.

Teddy, I let him leave. Nobody was forcing him to do anything. Also, it's a game between friends, I've known the guy for years. This is not an underground game or a casino or online. I have no problem with a guy leaving at anytime as long as you call it well in advance. Him just upping and leaving with 20 min. to go just left a bad taste in everyone's mouth that was there. Even the guy that he brought with him thought it was weird that he left like that. He felt bad and stayed the extra 20 min even after his friend left.I always thought it was proper etiquette in a home game to stay till the end time if you were up unless you gave advance notice. I'm sure most guys that play home games with their friends would agree with this. So seriously, if you were playing with your friends and you were up a few hundred bucks, you would just up and go with 20 min. left instead of finishing it out , help to clean up a bit, chit chat for a few minutes after the game?

[Dratj 0]

I had a similar situation a while back.Playing in an informal weekly £1/£2nl game at my local pub, most had sat with around £40-£60, and I sat with £80 to cover (yeah, it's a real short-buy game, but it's the only one around). We started at about 10:30pm, and the game was due to finish at about 3am. I ended up winning a couple of decent sized pots at around 2am, and was sat with £200ish. At that point, my mate (he wasn't in the game) who was driving announced that he was going in 15 mins. Because it was either get a free lift with him or get a taxi for £10 a little later, I decided to leave the game.Unfortunately, the game goes so damn slow that there had only been 2-3 hands dealt since I had won those pots, and they got pissed off that I was leaving. Actually, I think they were mostly pissed off that in a game populated by 40-60 year olds, some punk kid was winning and they wanted a chance to get their money back. One guy threatened under his breath to not allow me to play there anymore, even though it wasn't his game (nothing to do with the fact that I'd just felted him, obv). They weren't used to people leaving the game early unless they had no money left, apparently.I know these guys pretty well, and they knew that my mate was the driver. I explained that I wasn't turning down a free lift, that I'd given 15 minutes notice, and that it's a cash game so I should be able to leave if I wish. I also pointed out that I would have left regardless of how I'd been doing. My being in profit had no influence on my decision.I think I was well within my rights to leave at that point, under the circumstances.

I think you had a valid reason to leave. You needed a ride home and gave some notice which is fine. It's also not a home game and even if it was, I wouldn't have a problem with it if you called it.

[Cappy37 0]

So seriously, if you were playing with your friends and you were up a few hundred bucks, you would just up and go with 20 min. left instead of finishing it out , help to clean up a bit, chit chat for a few minutes after the game?

You make a good argument, but he's a chiropracter, and *anyone* in a medical field knows that chit-chatting in a social setting will involve hearing about 20 health problems and at least 4 back adjustments. So your logic is flawed there. If I was him I'd toss $5 in the pot to make up for it and leave 20 early just to avoid the chiro beg-fest.

[Dratj 0]

Tough spot. I look at these things from a "bird's eye view" impartially, and I have to agree with both points of view:1. ) He's slightly out of line bailing that quickly after a big pot. He's likely not a regular home game player (outside of your home game, I mean).2. ) You guys are out of line for attempting to force him to stay. I can't emphasize this enough. Some people form relationships, others take hostages. You guys were attempting to take a hostage, and it's likely going to cost you a relationship. Of course, his mega-tight ultra-annyoing-needle game isn't well matched for your group of lagtards, anyways. As good as implied odds are going up against him, it's not incredibly +EV to have him sit down over a normal fish. No one on HSP seemed too sad to see Bob Stupak go, for much the same line of reasoning.

He isn't a regular home game player even outside of my home game. We didn't force him to stay, I just told him I thought it was bad etiquette to leave like that and I told him deep down I think you know that. After I said that, he threw his money back on the table and said he'd finish it out but I told him to just go because it's meaningless for me to have forced him to stay. I don't make people do what they don't want to do. I just felt it needed to be said he shouldn't have did what he did.

[brvheart 1,752]

This is a good summary of your doctor friend:

This dude is evidently pretty faggoty.

but this is the correct answer for this situation:

fuck that, i would never want to play in a game that forced me to stay. If I was him I'd never go back. Yes you are completely wrong. Also how is this a hit and run when there's TWENTY minutes left?! Did you guys start at 1 am or something? That's flat out ridiculous. This was extremely wrong and I would never go to a home game like this.

The problem is that you guys were also faggoty and obviously this is what should have happened:

20 minutes left with a super tight player..you might see him in 1 more hand....big deal, let him go, wish him well, congrats and can't wait to see you next time....

You should make a couple of appointments quickly and get your friends to do the same, if you ever want a chance at that money.... but do you even want him back? Ususally really tight players will fold almost anything to save money, and they aren't really that great to have around, IMO.

[Royal_Tour 0]

Drajtwhen ur playing in a friendly home game with players who arnt that big on gambling and arent comfortable with playing vs LAGS, and would rather play tight andwin 1 lucky pot a night, you have to just let that be. Avoid pots with him if u must.Itsounds like u guysplayed loose allnight and now that the tight doc got a hand and won a pot, u expect him to stay, probably because he is a poor player and given time, will donate it back.Is that a fair assumption? If so, then is it bad etiquette for u guys to talk your "friend" into staying? To take advantage of someone by verbally announcing that what he is doing is unfair to you.U put him in a shit spot.i agree with teddy