Jennings7 0 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 What presidential candidate has the best policy alternative for addressing poverty in this country? Why?I have to write a couple pages on this by tomorrow and my brain is completely fried after completing a separate 5 page paper minutes ago. Your supreme intellect and razor sharp wit would be much appreciated. And now I will post a picture of a Jew. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 What presidential candidate has the best policy alternative for addressing poverty in this country? Why?You don't need Scram's intellect for this one, it's really easy. We have enough historical evidence to demonstrate which types of policies lead to highest standards of living: rule of law, respect for property rights, free trade. AINEC. So just look at each of the candidates and see which supports free markets and property rights. I'm guessing of candidates in the two major parties, that'd be Ron Paul. If you start going to fringe parties, it'd be the Libertarian candidate. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 You don't need Scram's intellect for this one, it's really easy. We have enough historical evidence to demonstrate which types of policies lead to highest standards of living: rule of law, respect for property rights, free trade. AINEC. So just look at each of the candidates and see which supports free markets and property rights. I'm guessing of candidates in the two major parties, that'd be Ron Paul. If you start going to fringe parties, it'd be the Libertarian candidate.True "free trade" not the distorted BS we have right now. Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff 0 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 perhaps we do not need a solution. if no one was poor, then everyone would be. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 perhaps we do not need a solution. if no one was poor, then everyone would be.This pretty much sums up the socialist model. Winston Churchill put it this way:"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. " Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 True "free trade" not the distorted BS we have right now.Yeah, someone (The Heritage Foundation?) ranks every country on true economic freedom. Back in 2001 I compared that list to various measures of health and economic well-being (based on the CIA World Factbook), and frankly, the results surprised even me in how strong the association is between freedom and wealth; economic interference and poverty.I can't seem to format the raw data to fit this page, but here's the summary of the results by comparing the top 20 or so most free countries to the 20 or so least free countries:This desire to interfere costs the citizens of of the least free countries approximately 15 years of life expectency. This desire to interfere means that citizens of the least free countries have an appalling 54 additional infants deaths per thousand. This desire to interfere costs the citizens of the least free countries a stunning $17,400 per year. This desire to interfere means that the an additional 17% of the citizens of the least free countries are without jobs (and that is a conservative estimate, according to the CIA world factbook estimates of unemployment rates).This is why I get such a kick out of the people who come on here and claim that sure, central planning has failed in the past, but if we just did it the *right* way, it would lead to Utopia. We have *mountains* of data at this point.EDIT: I found the link to the original post where I did the research, it's HERE. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 This pretty much sums up the socialist model. Winston Churchill put it this way:"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. "Churchill was a moron.No sw needed, I hope. Link to post Share on other sites
whatgreatis 0 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 John Edwards AINEC Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 John Edwards AINECsw? Link to post Share on other sites
jmkiser 0 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 John Edwards is like a tv commercial for the poor.You watch him and you think "oh, he's obviously the candidate for the poor"but then you realize the commercial has absolutely nothing to do with the product.Honestly, the sound economical strategies from Ron Paul would do a million times more for the poor then John Edwards would ever do. Link to post Share on other sites
whatgreatis 0 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 sw?you wish Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 stuffThe RP video in your sig is amazing.... Link to post Share on other sites
jmkiser 0 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 The RP video in your sig is amazing.... :D Link to post Share on other sites
scram 1 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I typed a fairly large reply- like, it probably would've been a 5 page paper in and of itself... When I realized that the question itself is a failure, I had this huge internal struggle between my ego and my sense of logic... Logic wanted to delete the post and reply as I have below, ego wanted to post the entire thing because a lot of work had gone into it, it was pretty good and there would likely be an entertaining, robust discussion about it.Logic won.The question shouldn't be "what candidate has the best ideas for "poverty" "... That's usually code for bleeding heart leftist bullshit that only creates stupid government agencies, task forces, and without exception, winds up taxing success to subsidize failure.The question should be "what candidate has the best ideas on economic issues" as the economy alone is what best serves to allow working people to increase their standard of living. The answer is obv Ron Paul.Of course, you may just be asking this becase you know I lost my av/sig/title playing HU, had it replaced with Hillary shit and thought it would be amusing watching someone fulminate a bunch of Libertarian ideas whilst decked out with Hillary Clinton images... If so, well played. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Stuff I agree with....Why is Hillary holding a giant dildo in your sig?Oh yeah, never mind. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 perhaps we do not need a solution. if no one was poor, then everyone would be.Not really. It depends on what you mean by poor. If you mean the difference in wealth between people, then yes, there would be no one with significantly more money than other people, and therefore no one would be rich. If you mean the ability to buy food, a house, and send kids to school, then it is certainly theoretically possible for no one to be poor by possessing the above abilities.Or are you implying that so long as there is a finite non-delta distribution of wealth than society is perfectly balanced? We can still have a bottom rung of society while allowing those people to eat and such. Link to post Share on other sites
onlyme386 0 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 you are a great addition to the forum, please post more. i really like your, uhhhh, style.Why is Hillary holding a giant dildo in your sig?Oh yeah, never mind.because bill stopped loving her 14 years ago? Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Why is Hillary holding a giant dildo in your sig?Oh yeah, never mind.Because they don't make a cigar thick enough. Link to post Share on other sites
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