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PokerStars Game #13555055495: Tournament #68747529, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/11/30 - 01:30:55 (ET)Table '68747529 6' 9-max Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 1: The HedgeHog (4960 in chips) Seat 2: thrilliswear (1580 in chips) Seat 3: Run MTD (12310 in chips) Seat 4: AAAbossAAA (3774 in chips) Seat 5: herly33 (5265 in chips) Seat 6: MerVic (6768 in chips) Seat 8: mariebadee (5135 in chips) Seat 9: nikkip2113 (1824 in chips) herly33: posts small blind 100MerVic: posts big blind 200*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to herly33 [9c Kd]mariebadee: folds nikkip2113: folds The HedgeHog: folds thrilliswear: folds Run MTD: folds AAAbossAAA: folds herly33: raises 400 to 600MerVic: calls 400*** FLOP *** [Jh 8d Kh]herly33: bets 1200MerVic: raises 4968 to 6168 and is all-inherly33: calls 3465 and is all-in*** TURN *** [Jh 8d Kh] [Js]*** RIVER *** [Jh 8d Kh Js] [9h]*** SHOW DOWN ***herly33: shows [9c Kd] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)MerVic: shows [Ac Ad] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)MerVic collected 10530 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 10530 | Rake 0 Board [Jh 8d Kh Js 9h]Seat 1: The HedgeHog folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: thrilliswear folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: Run MTD folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: AAAbossAAA (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: herly33 (small blind) showed [9c Kd] and lost with two pair, Kings and JacksSeat 6: MerVic (big blind) showed [Ac Ad] and won (10530) with two pair, Aces and JacksSeat 8: mariebadee folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: nikkip2113 folded before Flop (didn't bet)I had very limited info on this player since i had just moved to table a few hands ago. He had not shown any hands down. I raise preflop to see if he has ace-anything. When i hit top pair and the flush draw is out there i bet pot for that reason. He puts me all in i had no idea he had AA. Put him either on flush draw or AJ or A8. I ruled out AK due to the fact he didnt re-raise me. So what could i have done different here? maybe a feeler bet on the flop instead of a pot bet?? Any input would be helpful, Thanks

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I have no real problems with your line. I'd raise a bit more preflop, since you're out of position, and c-bet 3/4ths to 4/5ths on the flop. However, regardless of that, with no reads I think I can find a fold when he comes over the top. Pretty much anything that pushes there has you crushed - you're slightly behind Ah8h and even Qh8h; heck, even against 3h2h you're only about a 3:2 favorite.You have a decent amount of chips left even when you fold. No need to risk your tourney on top pair dodgy kicker with no redraws.

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All standard. Unlucky.As played, I don't think you can fold to the flop all in. You've built up too big of a pot and he could very well make this play with any 2 hearts, jx or 8x. It is blind vs blind. How much credit can you give him? Unfortunate he trapped you with AA.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)MP1 (t4960)MP2 (t1580)CO (t12310)Button (t3774)Hero (t5265)BB (t6768)UTG (t5135)UTG+1 (t1824)Preflop: Hero is SB with 9c.gif, kd.gif. 6 folds, Hero raises to t600, BB calls t400.Flop: (t1200) jh.gif, 8d.gif, kh.gif(2 players)Hero bets t1200, BB raises to t6168, Hero calls t3465 (All-In).Turn: (t12033) js.gif(2 players, 1 all-in)River: (t12033) 9h.gif(2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: t10530
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I limp preflop because in my view, if you are raising preflop you have to raise to 800 to have any effect. So when you get called by the bb you are playing K9o (a hand crushed by his calling range) OOP in a bloated pot. It's not like 300 chips does much for your stack at this point, so I don't feel with have to be attacking his BB here.

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