Kk...decent Stacks...big Pot Brewing

[prideofatx 0]

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.10 BB (6 handed) Ultimate-Bet Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)Hero ($16.43)CO ($6.91)Button ($2.45)SB ($17.49)BB ($4.14)UTG ($14.73)Preflop: Hero is MP with , . UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.45, 2 folds, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.35, UTG calls $0.35.Flop: ($1.80) , , (4 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.2, SB raises to $2.4, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero calls $1.20.Turn: ($6.60) (2 players)SB bets 3.5Final Pot: $6.60Ok, so once the villain lead out for half the pot i put him on a flush/combo draw. I really did not think he had a four and i thought a combo draw or another overpair were his range. With this information should we shove? Im pretty sure i am ahead of his range and i would not put it beyond this player to make a bad call. Anyway i just wanted some feedback because i am about to play a 300 BB pot with just an overpair.edit was made to hand history

[craiger 0]

I think you're ahead here most of the time. Maybe he has A-8, and since the 6 was another undercard to his top pair, he bet again. What could he really call a preflop raise with that contained a 4, especially out of position? Maybe A-4?? Anyways, I would have went over the top on the flop and let him hang himself if he gets married to top pair or an over pair. Ship it!!!

[NoBBiR 0]

I don't think I'd ship it in. I think I'd bet about 4.50 and fold to a shove. Checking lets us get bluffed off the hand while shoving lets him instacall with a 4 or another hand that beats us and fold pretty much everything else.The minraise scares me a bit on the flop. At .05/.10, minraises are usually a sign of real strength.

[E-Cart6 0]

The minraise scares me a bit on the flop. At .05/.10, minraises are usually a sign of real strength.

QFT.I'd try to keep the pot small. Especially considering he got !!!3!!! callers preflop at a 6max table. I've played with some of these kind of players yesterday and i've seen them play ANYTHING. 49/KK/6J/A2 anything. They limp and call most raises.He could have a 4 so i'd keep the pot fairly small, but i doubt i could fold unless another 8 came.EDIT: Didn't see the SB betting 3.5. I'd probably call. I doubt he'd bet that much on a flush draw. If a club comes you might even be able to make him laydown a 4. Donks are often most afraid of flushes because they are easy to notice. It looks like he's trying to bet a lot to make you laydown a flush. I think an overpair is possible here aswell though so an A or Q if he's got TT/JJ could kill your action, but i think i'd just call.

[mln_falcon 0]

Ok, so once the villain lead out for half the pot i put him on a flush/combo draw. I really did not think he had a four and i thought a combo draw or another overpair were his range. With this information should we shove? Im pretty sure i am ahead of his range and i would not put it beyond this player to make a bad call. Anyway i just wanted some feedback because i am about to play a 300 BB pot with just an overpair.edit was made to hand history

Your allowed to play a big pot if your logic is reasonable. You have a read that he doesn't have a 4. Therefore shove, and get snap called by A8 sooted and hold. If he turns up with a 4 you were wrong about his range and you can make a note for later.

[mtdesmoines 3]

Anyway i just wanted some feedback because i am about to play a 300 BB pot with just an overpair.

I don't know that I would. I might fold the turn. These are the hands that beat you here: AA, 88, 66, A4, 24, 34, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 4T, J4, Q4, K4,57 Do you think you dodged all these?

[prideofatx 0]

Thanks for all the replys, i got some good stuff. Mtdesmoines post reminded me that i need to think about specific hands in the ranges and probably play a little less emotionally. Anyways i felt like kings were good and figured i might get a call from a worse hand and shoved. Villain shows A8 of diamonds. The only thing i think justifies this play is the absolute donkness of microlimits. Against a player that i had a note on as bein solid i think this would be much more tricky.edit: More specifically i think the fact that all of the over pairs of this donk are calling me is what really caused the push

[mln_falcon 0]

I think it's been said before that mtdesmoines can fear the worst sometimes. Hands that you beat that will call, (at least at these limits)A8-Q8 (if "competent")any 8 (if donk)QQ,JJ,TT,99probably 77 and 66. 67, 68, 65.and flush draws. Like I said if you don't think he has a 4 you must shove. I might not be willing to think that he doesn't have a 4 here, but if your confident go with your read. 150bbs is one of those awkward stack sizes where you have to sometimes stack off with overpairs but you don't feel good about it.

[Snamuh 0]

I shove this all day at 10 NL. Falcon's reasoning is the same as mine.

[Dubey 1,035]

err, I'm never considering folding this unless it is against the weakest tightest player ever. A flop like 448 is one of the best flops we can hope for with KK. I like the way you played it, given that there were no other stragglers on the flop bet/raise, I'd smooth call there with position and let him hang himself on the turn. Once he bets the turn, shove. You will get called by worse hands quite often here. yeah he shows up with a 4 sometimes, but, that's poker. I'm willing to go broke here.