bdc30 0 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Looked for a c/r on the turn, didn't get it. Then things go bananas on this river, are we looking at JJ? Flopped straight flushament? Call?? Can we possibly fold this????Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.506 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $15.10UTG+1: $21.95Hero: $73.60Button: $26.60SB: $85.90BB: $128.25Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 6 4 6 7 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.Flop: 6 5 2 ($5.75, 3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $2.85, SB calls, Hero calls.Turn: 2 ($14.3, 3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.River: J ($14.3, 3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $7, Button raises all-in $22, SB raises all-in $81.3, Hero ??? Link to post Share on other sites
ahosang 0 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Looked for a c/r on the turn, didn't get it. Then things go bananas on this river, are we looking at JJ? Flopped straight flushament? Call?? Can we possibly fold this????Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.506 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $15.10UTG+1: $21.95Hero: $73.60Button: $26.60SB: $85.90BB: $128.25Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 6 4 6 7 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.Flop: 6 5 2 ($5.75, 3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $2.85, SB calls, Hero calls.Turn: 2 ($14.3, 3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.River: J ($14.3, 3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $7, Button raises all-in $22, SB raises all-in $81.3, Hero ???Probably quads since they called flop.It's opponent dependent. Without observing that he frquently does these moves, its a pretty easy fold. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share Posted November 22, 2007 C'mon iggy, I see you lurking...annnnnnnswer.... Link to post Share on other sites
KoRnholio 2 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Well from their perspective you could have the nut flush, since your actions (smooth call the club flop, check the scare card, value bet the river) are consistent with that... Button could well have a hand like 52/62, but when the SB 3bets the river that hard, I think we are looking at a straight flush or quads here... Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 C'mon iggy, I see you lurking...annnnnnnswer....LOL. I had a lull when I was 6-tabling earlier and I started to answer and then got back into my hands and forgot all about it. Anyway, first off you have to bet this turn. The whole reason that we call the flop in the first place is that we might be able to get good value against something like 55 if the board pairs. This is our chance to get in there and go for two streets of value. If I end up getting $7 multiway after hitting my hand, I'm pissed off. I'd bet somewhere between $10 and full pot on the turn. When someone calls for the board pair and then hits it, it's very hard to fold. Remember, if you get an extra $7 out of a flush 5 times, but cost yourself $40 from a boat once, that's a losing play.As played, if SB's competent at all, it's probably a fold on the river. A thinking player will know that a tight opponent will need at least an overfull to call this so he won't raise full pot without at least 66 which he can't have. If he's laggy or values hands poorly though, it can still be a call. Against anyone who plays more than 60% of their hands preflop or who I'd specifically seen make large value bets with weakish hands, it would be a call. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 ^^What he said. I can't add anything. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share Posted November 22, 2007 If I'd bet the turn, this hand would have played out totally different. Button had JJ for the rivered high boat. SB (who c/r'd all in) had 62, for a turned full house which got caught on the river. I folded the river.Had I bet the turn, Button would have had to fold, he had nothing, JJK9 if I recall, and SB almost certainly would have gotten it all in with me there, with me having him drawing absolutely dead. Link to post Share on other sites
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