Makavelli 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 I'm no psychologist, but there's a really interesting pattern here. All of these guys have been accused of sucking, right here on this forum. When was the last time the RUNNER UP of a major tournament sucked? Oh wait, THEY'RE always good; it's just the guy who actually wins who got lucky/sucks. I'm sure it's just a coincidence. But maybe it's worth thinking about. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 amen.but your title cut off after the letters "Gu", not sure who that is?aseemedit: nevermind. gus hansen. Link to post Share on other sites
BigSlickBengal 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 only person on that list i dont like is moneymaker.. i think the rest are talented poker players........ esp gus hansen.. i like his agressive style Link to post Share on other sites
clashcityrocker 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 only person on that list i dont like is moneymaker.. i think the rest are talented poker players........ esp gus hansen.. i like his agressive styleWatched Gus Hansen in a qualifier for the British Poker Open last night. After raising with junk all night (as he does) he gets dealt A K off suit, and raises with this also. Roy Brindley calls with Q 8 off suit.Flop:A K 7 rainbow.Roy Brindley then moves all in. Gus comments that unless he has three sevens he is in a world of pain before calling.Turn:QRoy Brindley now claims he has five outs. Gus laughs and asks the dealer to "please give the man an 8".River:8I laughed for about three hours after that. Link to post Share on other sites
BigSlickBengal 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 only person on that list i dont like is moneymaker.. i think the rest are talented poker players........ esp gus hansen.. i like his agressive styleWatched Gus Hansen in a qualifier for the British Poker Open last night. After raising with junk all night (as he does) he gets dealt A K off suit, and raises with this also. Roy Brindley calls with Q 8 off suit.Flop:A K 7 rainbow.Roy Brindley then moves all in. Gus comments that unless he has three sevens he is in a world of pain before calling.Turn:QRoy Brindley now claims he has five outs. Gus laughs and asks the dealer to "please give the man an 8".River:8I laughed for about three hours after that.Now thats funny right there.. haha.... if you are agressive like that u hit that big hand and just get paid... Link to post Share on other sites
CheckRaise 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 only person on that list i dont like is moneymaker.. i think the rest are talented poker players........ esp gus hansen.. i like his agressive styleWatched Gus Hansen in a qualifier for the British Poker Open last night. After raising with junk all night (as he does) he gets dealt A K off suit, and raises with this also. Roy Brindley calls with Q 8 off suit.Flop:A K 7 rainbow.Roy Brindley then moves all in. Gus comments that unless he has three sevens he is in a world of pain before calling.Turn:QRoy Brindley now claims he has five outs. Gus laughs and asks the dealer to "please give the man an 8".River:8I laughed for about three hours after that.Not sure why its funny please tell me i want to laugh with you Link to post Share on other sites
dms26 3 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 I just laugh when people say Gus is just a lucky player. All the guys on your list are talented IMO with the exception of Varkonyi. I wouldn't put Moneymaker anywhere near Gus but he still has some talent. But it's just funny to hear people say they got lucky, of course they did. It's the only way to win, you have to win a few pots as an underdog. Link to post Share on other sites
spacoli 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 "Not sure why its funny please tell me i want to laugh with you"B/C he only had 2 outs (2 remaining Qs), I guess he thought the other 3 8s would help him.....lolThat's classic. Link to post Share on other sites
elkang 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 great stories like this only make you fear gus even more.kudos to him and his style... and god bless everyone out there that attempts to play like him (and winds up at my table). Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 When was the last time the RUNNER UP of a major tournament sucked? Oh wait, THEY'RE always good; it's just the guy who actually wins who got lucky/sucksI would never say he sucks because I think he is talented just like eveyone else on your list with the exception of Varkoni. But, David Williams got pretty damn lucky to get to 2nd. I remember him being all in a couple of times as a dog and catching a miracle. Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 THERE IS LUCK IN POKER. IF THERE WAS NO LUCK PHILL HELMUTH WOULD WIN EVERY TIME. seriously, though, what is the problem with luck. you need luck. the skill is putting yourself in the position to be lucky. Link to post Share on other sites
Makavelli 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Author Share Posted April 28, 2005 Yeah, of course. My purpose in this thread was just to point out the venom that gets directed at players who win big events. this is the FIRST time I've ever heard anyone say DAvid William "sucked," but if we'd won... who knows? Link to post Share on other sites
ChkDeezNuts 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Varkoyi probably better than Tuan Le.....That is the sad reality.Mentioning Gus Hansen and Huck Seed with those guys is an insult. Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Ben 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 You can't survive a 5 day (or whatever) poker tournament without being both lucky and skilled. I hate it when my friends say that Moneymaker isn't that good and just got lucky. I got $10 that says he cleans up our homegame... Link to post Share on other sites
SapphireTiger 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 it's the same thing. over and over and over again. this forum is stuck on repeat. Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Varkoyi probably better than Tuan Le.....That is the sad reality.Mentioning Gus Hansen and Huck Seed with those guys is an insult.That's absolutely ridiculous. Varkoni went on a hugh rush and hit every hand for one tournament, and hasn't been heard from since. Tuan Le had already had some success before winning two hugh tourneys. Link to post Share on other sites
ChkDeezNuts 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Varkoyi probably better than Tuan Le.....That is the sad reality.Mentioning Gus Hansen and Huck Seed with those guys is an insult.That's absolutely ridiculous. Varkoni went on a hugh rush and hit every hand for one tournament, and hasn't been heard from since. Tuan Le had already had some success before winning two hugh tourneys.There the same guy.....Tuan Le hit every card there was to hit....at least Varkonyi played position perfectly at the final table in the WSOP. Tuan Le just...well....sucks. Link to post Share on other sites
Makavelli 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Author Share Posted April 28, 2005 And Makavelli looks at what has become of his post, and sadly he thinks to himself, My point point has been lost... Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Varkoyi probably better than Tuan Le.....That is the sad reality.Mentioning Gus Hansen and Huck Seed with those guys is an insult.That's absolutely ridiculous. Varkoni went on a hugh rush and hit every hand for one tournament, and hasn't been heard from since. Tuan Le had already had some success before winning two hugh tourneys.There the same guy.....Tuan Le hit every card there was to hit....at least Varkonyi played position perfectly at the final table in the WSOP. Tuan Le just...well....sucks.yea, he really sucks. sucks like a $4m check. Link to post Share on other sites
Deepkoncntrtion 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Tuan played 181 hands heads up in the 25K ....if he hit everyhand it would of been over after 10-20 hands w/ the blinds..... Link to post Share on other sites
clashcityrocker 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 only person on that list i dont like is moneymaker.. i think the rest are talented poker players........ esp gus hansen.. i like his agressive styleWatched Gus Hansen in a qualifier for the British Poker Open last night. After raising with junk all night (as he does) he gets dealt A K off suit, and raises with this also. Roy Brindley calls with Q 8 off suit.Flop:A K 7 rainbow.Roy Brindley then moves all in. Gus comments that unless he has three sevens he is in a world of pain before calling.Turn:QRoy Brindley now claims he has five outs. Gus laughs and asks the dealer to "please give the man an 8".River:8I laughed for about three hours after that.Also, they were rigged up to heart monitors. Gus tried a big bluff on Devilfish, and whilst he was deciding whether to call or not they checked Gus' heart rate. 56 beats per minute. The guy is immense. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 And Makavelli looks at what has become of his post, and sadly he thinks to himself, My point point has been lost...i feel your pain. aseem Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 who is saying raymer sucks?that would be an absurd comment.Raymer is a very good player. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 who is saying raymer sucks?that would be an absurd comment.Raymer is a very good player.are you kidding? plenty of idiots think raymer is a lucky amateur who sucks at poker.it's no different with raymer, tuan, gus (previously at least), moneymaker, etc.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
dms26 3 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 who is saying raymer sucks?that would be an absurd comment.Raymer is a very good player.are you kidding? plenty of idiots think raymer is a lucky amateur who sucks at poker.it's no different with raymer, tuan, gus (previously at least), moneymaker, etc.aseemYeah I heard alot of people saying Raymer sucked because he went all in and was in a bunch or race situations. Of course they don't care that he was only risking 75K of his 3.2M stack to knock a player out. Watch him on PStars, the railbirds are ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites
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