Standard River...

[bdc30 0]

Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.506 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $53UTG+1: $19.50CO: $71.75Button: $76.50Hero: $60.45BB: $46.60Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 4 J T J UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.Flop: 4 T J ($3, 6 players)Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.5, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero raises to $5.5, BB folds, UTG calls, 2 folds.Turn: 5 ($15, 2 players)Hero bets $15, UTG calls.River: Q ($45, 2 players)Hero?? any advice here other than "SIGHS AND QUITS POKER BECAUSE HE CAN'T F*CKING DODGE A F*CKING DRAW TO SAVE HIS LIFE"?????

[KoRnholio 2]

These spots are so gross in deep stacked PLO. With the rainbow board on the turn, you know he isn't calling with a flush draw. He *could* have a lower set here quite often though. But knowing if a villain is capable of making a stone bluff when a draw completes (or knowing when to turn a hand like 44, TT or even JT into a bluff to induce a fold) is a very valuable asset.If the river was a 9, I would say very easy check-fold since the most common draw to call a pot bet with there is 3 or 4 cards out of 9QKA (or perhaps something like 89Qx). With the river being a Q, only the AKQx/89xQ combo now has a straight.So all in all, tough spot. Good news is that not as many of his straight draw hands have made a straight on the river. Bad news is that 1) He is unlikely to have a set or two pair, since we know where 2 of the 4's, 2 of the T's and 3 of the J's are. 2) Even if he doesn't have the straight, he may well bluff as if he has it once he sees us check.I think I check-puke-fold to any meaningful bet, because most people who bet will have it here.

[RascoHeldall 0]

If I were in this spot I'd probably lead for about $10 just to make it harder for the villain to go for an outright steal: if he raises in this spot you know you're beat, if he calls you might (somehow) still be good (if he's an idiot). I realise that's quite an expensive play but I guess the way I'd look at it is, if I was somehow good (looks unlikely, I'll freely admit), my only hope of getting what's in the pot would be to bet. Certainly, I know that if I was the villian and still had nothing on the river, but you checked, I'd find a pot-sized bluff irrestible!

[bdc30 0]

I hate flopping top two pair in Omaha more than words can express.

You know we have a set, yes?

[BudBundy 0]

I don't think he will bluff most of the time there. I check/call a reasonable bet. check/fold to a big bet.

[simo_8ball 1]

If you check this river to me I'm shoving with most hands because you never have AK there.That's just me though.

[BudBundy 0]

If you check this river to me I'm shoving with most hands because you never have AK there.

How can he call with that??? Sounds familiar?

[simo_8ball 1]

How can he call with that??? Sounds familiar?

Sigh.

[BudBundy 0]

Sigh.

[bdc30 0]

So what's the consensus here? Bet/Fold? Check/Call small? Check/Fold?

[simo_8ball 1]

Check/fold. No value in betting, and no value in subsequently calling (he has a straight too often).

[iggymcfly 0]

Easy check/fold. If he actually does have a lower set, he won't bother trying to bluff and there's a good chance that he'll check behind with two pair too. There are no missed draws to worry about so it's going to be a straight about 90% of the time when he bets.