Wingman008 0 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Topic:Lets say you have 92o. Flop comes 927 with the 9 and 7 of spades.Now lets say that your opponent flips his hand over showing 86spades. He goes all in.Is it ever right to fold here even though we have the advantage? Could it possibly be +ev if we thought that we could find a bigger edge down the road? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Not in a cash game... Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 He's the favorite, so yes, you should fold if the stacks are large enough compared to current pot. That is, if you're getting worse than 1.27 : 1 odds. Board: 9s 7s 3cDead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 44.108% 44.11% 00.00% 3930 0.00 { 92o }Hand 1: 55.892% 55.89% 00.00% 4980 0.00 { 8s6s } Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman008 0 Posted October 19, 2007 Author Share Posted October 19, 2007 He's the favorite, so yes, you should fold if the stacks are large enough compared to current pot. That is, if you're getting worse than 1.27 : 1 odds.Board: 9s 7s 3cDead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 44.108% 44.11% 00.00% 3930 0.00 { 92o }Hand 1: 55.892% 55.89% 00.00% 4980 0.00 { 8s6s } lol, I can't type and I saw that I had put a 3instead of a 2. So I switched it around to make us have two pair. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Is it ever right to fold here even though we have the advantage? Could it possibly be +ev if we thought that we could find a bigger edge down the road?It's not right to fold for this reason, however, unless you are under-rolled. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman008 0 Posted October 19, 2007 Author Share Posted October 19, 2007 What if we are in a freezeout tournament? Would that change anything? Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 lol, I can't type and I saw that I had put a 3instead of a 2. So I switched it around to make us have two pair.The rake could bump this over into a -EV situation, but I think I'm playing with your hypothetical. Don't fold +EV situations in cash games.Board: 9s 7s 2cDead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 51.212% 51.21% 00.00% 3549 0.00 { 92o }Hand 1: 48.788% 48.79% 00.00% 3381 0.00 { 8s6s } Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 What if we are in a freezeout tournament? Would that change anything?Maybe. Link to post Share on other sites
dgostate8 0 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 This kind of thing happens to me all the time... Link to post Share on other sites
KoRnholio 2 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Never fold. This is a pretty typical PL Omaha spot. There are a lot of times where even if you could see each other's hands, you would still be putting all the money in. Link to post Share on other sites
Money022 0 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Never fold. This is a pretty typical PL Omaha spot. There are a lot of times where even if you could see each other's hands, you would still be putting all the money in.If you're not a statistical favorite, and you don't have the odds to make a call, then folding would be correct. As noted above. Link to post Share on other sites
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