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Full Tilt Poker Game #3817477942: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (29073627), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:45:41 ET - 2007/10/10Seat 1: jerksonville (1,340)Seat 2: Bigmac2325 (1,600)Seat 3: NikolaTesla2 (1,635)Seat 4: bellflog (1,395)Seat 5: leibo19 (1,395)Seat 6: biker-trash420 (2,115)Seat 7: Flopn Nutz (1,605)Seat 8: BankRollin (1,330)Seat 9: Coto Rick (1,085)BankRollin posts the small blind of 25Coto Rick posts the big blind of 50The button is in seat #7*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Flopn Nutz [5d 8c]jerksonville foldsBigmac2325 calls 50NikolaTesla2 foldsbellflog foldsleibo19 calls 50biker-trash420 calls 50Flopn Nutz calls 50BankRollin foldsCoto Rick checks*** FLOP *** [4d 4s Th]Coto Rick checksBigmac2325 checksleibo19 checksbiker-trash420 checksFlopn Nutz checks*** TURN *** [4d 4s Th] [Qs]Coto Rick checksBigmac2325 checksleibo19 checksbiker-trash420 checksFlopn Nutz checks*** RIVER *** [4d 4s Th Qs] [2d]Coto Rick checksBigmac2325 bets 275leibo19 has 15 seconds left to actleibo19 calls 275biker-trash420 foldsFlopn Nutz has 15 seconds left to actFlopn Nutz foldsCoto Rick folds*** SHOW DOWN ***Bigmac2325 shows [Tc Td] a full house, Tens full of Foursleibo19 shows [4h 4c] four of a kind, Foursleibo19 wins the pot (825) with four of a kind, Fours*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 825 | Rake 0Board: [4d 4s Th Qs 2d]Seat 1: jerksonville didn't bet (folded)Seat 2: Bigmac2325 showed [Tc Td] and lost with a full house, Tens full of FoursSeat 3: NikolaTesla2 didn't bet (folded)Seat 4: bellflog didn't bet (folded)Seat 5: leibo19 showed [4h 4c] and won (825) with four of a kind, FoursSeat 6: biker-trash420 folded on the RiverSeat 7: Flopn Nutz (button) folded on the RiverSeat 8: BankRollin (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 9: Coto Rick (big blind) folded on the River

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lol.1. There is no collusion here, he wasn't last to act and didn't call/fold the nuts. 2. In reality it coulda been a value call, with 3 players to act behind him. 3. It can not be obvious collusion if you have to ask.

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lol.1. There is no collusion here, he wasn't last to act and didn't call/fold the nuts. 2. In reality it coulda been a value call, with 3 players to act behind him. 3. It can not be obvious collusion if you have to ask.
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I know that it isn't the point of this thread, but wasnt calling with 5-8offsuit worse than the other guy not raising on the riverI think the argument that he was likely trying to get more action makes sense; plus he may have had a read that people were calling preflop with 5-8 offsuit and was convinced that he would get more action

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I know that it isn't the point of this thread, but wasnt calling with 5-8offsuit worse than the other guy not raising on the riverI think the argument that he was likely trying to get more action makes sense; plus he may have had a read that people were calling preflop with 5-8 offsuit and was convinced that he would get more action
gettin like 4.5 to 1 I cant see a flop on the button with an 85?
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The river call was likely made to induce other calls behind him, if he believed the original bettor was on a bluff or weak-lead and would not call a raise.

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