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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (8 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)BB ($57)UTG ($99)UTG+1 ($111.60)MP1 ($114.95)MP2 ($98.50)Hero ($124.05)Button ($35)SB ($43.65)Preflop: Hero is CO with 3spade.gif, 3diamond.gif. 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $3, 1 fold, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold.Flop: ($10) 2diamond.gif, Kspade.gif, 3heart.gif(3 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5, UTG+1 calls $5.Turn: ($25) Qheart.gif(3 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $14, SB folds, UTG+1 raises to $103.6 (All-In), Any comments about anything appreciated.

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99% of the time NO.But there is a 1% where you know the player/have a read on him, and have a strong feeling he has a set of kings.

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I knew he loved his hand and I even thought he played it like KK, but still I've seen people do things that didnt seem plausible so I couldn't make myself fold.Hero calls $89.60.River: ($0) 3club.gif(2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: $232.20He showed KKWas just wondering if I played this hand profitably long term. I have been set under set a lot lately so I'm wondering if there people out there who are folding these on the flop/safe turn.

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Villain didn't play it that badly. No sense blowing people off their hands with top set on a K32 rainbow board. Turn puts some very unlikely draws out there, but the Hero has shown that he will likely bet again. The push is a little overkill, but will draw curious calls a lot from worse hands. Possibly even hands like AK.

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hmmm I am not as optimistic about my set of 3s in this spot, especially if this player is at all decent. The open pre flop check on such a ragged flop always has me weary of my hands, especially when the turn card is an under and my opp moves it in. I think you'll see way more sets played like this than ak or kq. Why would the villain just go nuts for 100 bb on a bluff in this weird spot??

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If the guy is a frequent c-bettor then then raise pf, check flop line is about 90% a set. It's called the OMGIFLOPPEDASETIHAVETOSLOWPLAY complex. It's a typically stupid line that you see a lot at low stakes. On this hand it's paired with the OHNOTHERESAFLUSHDRAWIMINTROUBLE ridiculous turn overbet.Really everything about this hand screams that villain is a bad player with KK. Still I can't fold the turn. I'm not sure if that's a leak or not. It's always a good idea to have rivering quads as a backup plan.Reads are helpful here. If villain is generally aggressive post flop after a flop raise then this is rarely AA, AK, or KQ. He'd bet all of those on the flop. If villain is "tricky" then those hands become more likely.

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If the guy is a frequent c-bettor then then raise pf, check flop line is about 90% a set. It's called the OMGIFLOPPEDASETIHAVETOSLOWPLAY complex. It's a typically stupid line that you see a lot at low stakes. On this hand it's paired with the OHNOTHERESAFLUSHDRAWIMINTROUBLE ridiculous turn overbet.Really everything about this hand screams that villain is a bad player with KK. Still I can't fold the turn. I'm not sure if that's a leak or not. It's always a good idea to have rivering quads as a backup plan.Reads are helpful here. If villain is generally aggressive post flop after a flop raise then this is rarely AA, AK, or KQ. He'd bet all of those on the flop. If villain is "tricky" then those hands become more likely.
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hmmm I am not as optimistic about my set of 3s in this spot, especially if this player is at all decent. The open pre flop check on such a ragged flop always has me weary of my hands, especially when the turn card is an under and my opp moves it in. I think you'll see way more sets played like this than ak or kq. Why would the villain just go nuts for 100 bb on a bluff in this weird spot??
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Set over Set doesn't exist. Having said that, I never fold a set, if a set is the winning hand. You can fold sets on drawsheavy boards.But keep in mind: Set over Set doesn't exist. It's just a ferritale.

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Set over Set doesn't exist. Having said that, I never fold a set, if a set is the winning hand. You can fold sets on drawsheavy boards.But keep in mind: Set over Set doesn't exist. It's just a ferritale.
really? wish you told the FTP software designers that little rule of thumb before i got stacked TWICE today by this mythical occurance...
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If an opponent has a set here, it is going to be very rare that they over shove the turn, as they never want to miss value with such a big hand. Especially after he slow played the flop.

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If the guy is a frequent c-bettor then then raise pf, check flop line is about 90% a set. It's called the OMGIFLOPPEDASETIHAVETOSLOWPLAY complex. It's a typically stupid line that you see a lot at low stakes. On this hand it's paired with the OHNOTHERESAFLUSHDRAWIMINTROUBLE ridiculous turn overbet.Really everything about this hand screams that villain is a bad player with KK. Still I can't fold the turn. I'm not sure if that's a leak or not. It's always a good idea to have rivering quads as a backup plan.Reads are helpful here. If villain is generally aggressive post flop after a flop raise then this is rarely AA, AK, or KQ. He'd bet all of those on the flop. If villain is "tricky" then those hands become more likely.
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