Flopped A Straight

[Danny Dingleberry 0]

this is a hand I got caught up in last night, live, in maybe a 60 man sng. blinds were very high, it was getting quite late in the tourney, and it was a bit of a crapshoot. blinds were so high that it was very valuable just to steal them/take them down. blinds were 600/1200. I had about 6000 in my stack. villain was in late position, with about 9-10000 in his stack. he was a calling station, quite passive but bet big when he had a hand. villian calls from late position. i was in small blind with QJo. so I called. BB checks.flop comes 9h 10d Kh. first to act, so I just pushed all in. BB folded, villian called.thoughts? i don't think there was any other way I could have played this hand.

[YBravo 0]

this is a hand I got caught up in last night, live, in maybe a 60 man sng. blinds were very high, it was getting quite late in the tourney, and it was a bit of a crapshoot. blinds were so high that it was very valuable just to steal them/take them down. blinds were 600/1200. I had about 6000 in my stack. villain was in late position, with about 9-10000 in his stack. he was a calling station, quite passive but bet big when he had a hand. villian calls from late position. i was in small blind with QJo. so I called. BB checks.flop comes 9h 10d Kh. first to act, so I just pushed all in. BB folded, villian called.thoughts? i don't think there was any other way I could have played this hand.

I check to a passive player to see if he has anything before I make a move at the pot. Then when he bets you can shove and he's obligated to call w/ anything but complete air (which passive players don't bet with). But I think the shove is ok, too. He's calling w/ any K, maybe a T as well.

[AKProdigy 0]

I check to a passive player to see if he has anything before I make a move at the pot. Then when he bets you can shove and he's obligated to call w/ anything but complete air (which passive players don't bet with). But I think the shove is ok, too. He's calling w/ any K, maybe a T as well.

I think its an autopush. Why would you check to a calling station? The blinds are so high compared to the stacks, you just want to get it in there immediately with the best hand, especially if he's prone to calling.I'm assuming that he hit his flush on the turn or river?

[YBravo 0]

I think its an autopush. Why would you check to a calling station? The blinds are so high compared to the stacks, you just want to get it in there immediately with the best hand, especially if he's prone to calling.I'm assuming that he hit his flush on the turn or river?

Well, a passive player will probably just fold if he has air. Give him a chance to hit a pair if he doesn't have one already. I'm willing to gamble a little bit here and check w/ such a strong hand and such a short stack.

[Danny Dingleberry 0]

the topic title makes it sound like he's got a draw doesn't it? ok, what I meant flopped a straight with a flush draw on the board. yeah. basically I figured I'd push because it's the best I could have hoped for if one of my opponents was on a draw. I would kick myself if I had to call someone's all in when they're on the draw. also being OOP is what affects my judgement here. maybe I shouldn't have posted that the villian called.ok, he's what i was thinking before I pushed.1) if someone's on a draw, I don't want to give them a free card. even if I know I can't get the villian to fold his draw if he was on one (because he's a station), I could get the BB to fold their draw. 2) if I push and everyone folds, even though I'm happy to take the blinds, have a missed an opportunity to extract some value out of my straight?3) if the villian is on a draw, he's calling no matter how much I bet.

[Danny Dingleberry 0]

in saying that, I'm betting 6000 into a 3600 pot, so i'm really punishing him if he chooses to call with his draw. I don't think there was a better way I could have played that hand. i got a call in the end and I don't think I could have got the BB to come along for the ride, he was too tight.

[gary21212121 0]

yea the stack sizes are kinda weird here... i think before the flop i would have shoved and tried to pick up the 3600 without going to the flop.As played, check/shove is probably the opition i would take. but open shoving isnt the worst play with this board.

[Danny Dingleberry 0]

why is open shoving the worst play? i want to protect my hand and I'm happy to take the blinds down after the flop. if I check it, I'm potentially giving away a free card, or giving the villian a chance to bet and then give himself odds to call. i just don't see a check happening at all. I could pot bet it, he'd still call. if I check though I think i'm gambling way too much when it could cost me the tourney if I mess it up.

[Danny Dingleberry 0]

you'd push with a QJ off suit into a calling station who has already entered the pot???

[gary21212121 0]

why is open shoving the worst play? i want to protect my hand and I'm happy to take the blinds down after the flop. if I check it, I'm potentially giving away a free card, or giving the villian a chance to bet and then give himself odds to call. i just don't see a check happening at all. I could pot bet it, he'd still call. if I check though I think i'm gambling way too much when it could cost me the tourney if I mess it up.

asdjkf sorry danny, i meant to say open shoving ISNT the worst play. It def. depends on your opponent, normally i would think he would bet if checked to as this flop is going to hit a lot of hands.. thats why i said i would opt to check/shoveOpen shoving is NOT a bad play and def. one i would make if the villian is passive and i think he is going to check.

you'd push with a QJ off suit into a calling station who has already entered the pot???

yep... this is live right?? from my experience ive had a lot of success from stealing from limps when blinds are super high.... i guess if your scard he is going to call with a wide range you could raise to 5,000 and try and give off a million and one strong tells... i dunno, its worked great for me in the past

[pdr87 0]

If you want to play this hand, you have to shove preflop. No point in limping in for 10% of your stack.

[copernicus 0]

Youre going all the way with this hand no matter what the turn and river are, so a free card is meaningless. Why not check/raise and try to lure two callers instead of one or none? This is too strong to push and potentially case both away.

[copernicus 0]

If you want to play this hand, you have to shove preflop. No point in limping in for 10% of your stack.

No way is this a mandatory shove pf with ONLY 10% of your stack to call and getting 5:1 odds. If Im going to shove without an A its not going to be after someone else is already in the pot, most likely with an A. Youre turning a very favorable odds situation into a marginal one where you are something like a 55:45 dog at best, probably closer to 60:40.