MadWolf1980 0 Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: ITH Forums)Preflop: Hero is UTG with , . Hero raises, MP 3-bets, 1 fold, Button calls, BB calls, Hero caps, MP calls, Button calls, BB calls.Flop: (16.50 SB) , , (5 players)BB checks, Hero bets, MP raises, Button calls, BB folds, Hero calls.Turn: (11.25 BB) (4 players)Hero checks, MP bets, Button calls, Hero calls.River: (14.25 BB) (4 players)Hero checks, MP bets, Button calls, Hero ...My thoughts on the hand:Preflop:Preflop pretty standard stuff, no need to slow down since we had capped preflop before and people were in it with Q8 and KJ so i dont have to give to much credit for AA or KKFlop: mistakeFlop is pretty bad for me and i should definitely not bet at it with so much people in the pot since there is no chance im gonna win it here. I would opt for a c/c here if its only 1 bet to me. Turn:The bottom card pairs which should not concern me too much since even though people might play lots of garbage in these games i dont see anyboy stayying in here with a 3. An Ace or King might still be good for me and i picked up a flush draw.So i c/c.River: ???The river makes my flush but also pairs the topcard of the flop.Now i can beat any Big Pair and hands like A9 and obviously the busted str8 draws. Im behind to any Hand with a T like AT, KT,QT. so i c/c. Im not sure if i can possibly valuebet here since im only gonna get called by a hand that beats me and maybe another flush which is not at all likely.Comments please Link to post Share on other sites
KowboyKoop 0 Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 Preflop is obviously good.Flop, I probably check and peel with so many others in for so many bets....a continuation bet has zero chance of taking this down. With 'jeinu' being so aggressive (and without any reads)..I have to put him/her on a big pair....QQ or KK or JJ I would have to say.....the only hand I think villian could have here to hurt you is TT. I don't think AT is that aggressive unless you havea particular read. I have no idea what 'OTTO' is calling you all the way with. Once you hit the river, I think checking is the right play, as you need to see what 'OTTO' will do. Your flush beats most of the hands you put 'jeinu' on, and since 'OTTO' just calls a river bet from 'jeinu,' I have to thnk you are good.........so I might actually try a check-raise here given just a bet and a call. If 'OTTO' had bet/raised here on the river, I fold, as it would most likely mean he has a boat. Given the action (and again, without reads), I would have to say 'jeinu' has QQ and 'OTTO' could have as little as ace high.......or a hand like 77-99.However, if I have a read on either player as being loose and passive, which is common at those limits, then I just call the river instead of check-raising. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 Convert your hands.Also, this is shorthanded. 0 for 2. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 With the way this hand has been played, I think its a pretty standard river raise. MP has shown a lot of strength and I would put him on an over pair more often than not. Obviously if he 3bets you just call. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 raise the river Link to post Share on other sites
bobbywithani 0 Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 raise the riverAnd fold to a 3-bet? Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 And fold to a 3-bet?I'm calling a 3-bet. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 I think raising the river sucks balls, especially if you are calling a 3-bet.Are you misreading the board wsox? Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I think raising the river sucks balls, especially if you are calling a 3-bet.Are you misreading the board wsox?shit, I suck at read.I saw 10c-9h-d-xh-10hoops..I'm calling this river, not raising.Sorry.but if the board was 10c-9h-3d-4h-10h, I might three bet this. Link to post Share on other sites
MrNiceGuy 0 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I think the river is worth a check/raise, even given the double-paired board. (as long as you think MP will value-bet an overpair, otherwise you should probably lead out). It seems very unlikely that either opponent has a ten, and nealy impossible for either to have a 3. Button probably raises the river with any T or 99; he probably has something like JJ (although I suppose it's possible he has A3). Unless MP was screwing around with his preflop 3-bet, we're only losing if he has TT or 99, and chose to fastplay it on the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 I think raising the river sucks balls, especially if you are calling a 3-bet.Are you misreading the board wsox?lol i misread it too...thought only the 10 had paired...yeah its just a flat call and hope they all suck Link to post Share on other sites
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