digitalmonkey 929 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 (edited) Canadian Gothic complete roster VS Mustangs complete roster.Most NHL points at the end of the season wins.Amount: $5000Canadian Gothic RosterFrancois Bouillon - Montreal Canadiens 2 goals + 6 assists = 8 pointsSteve Eminger - Washington Capitals 2 assists = 2 pointsMilan Jurcina - Washington Capitals 1 goal + 8 assists = 9 pointsZbynek Michalek - Phoenix Coyotes 4 goals + 13 assists = 17 pointsLadislav Smid - Edmonton Oilers 4 assists = 4 pointsHenrik Tallinder - Buffalo Sabres 1 goal + 17 assists = 18 pointsChris Pronger - Anaheim Ducks 12 goals + 31 assists = 43 pointsMike Mottau - New Jersey Devils 4 goals + 13 assists = 17 pointsJonathan Ericsson - Detroit Red Wings 1 goal = 1 pointTyler Arnason - Colorado Avalanche 10 goals + 21 assists = 31 pointsP.J. Axelsson - Boston Bruins 13 goals + 16 assists = 29 pointsKyle Calder - Los Angeles Kings 7 goals + 13 assists = 20 pointsMatt Foy - Minnesota Wild 4 goals + 4 assists = 8 pointsSergei Brylin - New Jersey Devils 6 goals + 10 assists = 16 pointsMatthew Lombardi - Calgary Flames 14 goals + 22 assists = 36 pointsScott Walker - Carolina Hurricanes 14 goals + 18 assists = 32 pointsMikael Samuelsson - Detroit Red Wings 11 goals + 29 assists = 40 pointsRuslan Fedotenko - New York Islanders 16 goals + 17 assists = 33 pointsDarcy Tucker - Toronto Maple Leafs 18 goals + 16 assists = 34 pointsTodd White - Atlanta Thrashers 14 goals + 23 assists = 37 pointsMike York - Phoenix Coyotes 6 goals + 8 assists = 14 pointsDavid Vyborny - Columbus Blue Jackets 7 goals + 19 assists = 26 pointsRod Brind'Amour - Carolina Hurricanes 19 goals + 32 assists = 51 pointsGuillaume Latendresse - Montreal Canadiens 16 goals + 11 assists = 27 pointsMilan Lucic - Boston Bruins 8 goals + 19 assists = 27 pointsChris Conner - Dallas Stars 3 goals + 2 assists = 5 pointsMatthieu Perreault - Washington Capitals Kevin Klein - Nashville Predators 2 assists = 2 pointsBrendan Mikkelson - Anaheim Ducks Matt Niskanen - Dallas Stars 7 goals + 19 assists = 26 pointsAndrej Sekera - Buffalo Sabres 2 goals + 6 assists = 8 pointsOskars Bartulis - Philadelphia Flyers Raymond Macias - Colorado Avalanche Vladimir Mihalik - Tampa Bay Lightning Brendan Smith - Detroit Red Wings Troy Brouwer - Chicago Blackhawks 1 assist = 1 pointRobbie Earl - Toronto Maple Leafs 1 assist = 1 pointAlexei Kaigorodov - Phoenix Coyotes Bryan Little - Atlanta Thrashers 6 goals + 10 assists = 16 pointsRob Schremp - Edmonton Oilers Artem Anisimov - New York Rangers Luca Cunti - Tampa Bay Lightning Jonathan Filewich - Pittsburgh Penguins Maxim Mayorov - Columbus Blue Jackets Harrison Reed - Carolina Hurricanes MustangsJosh Gorges - Montreal Canadiens 9 assists = 9 pointsScott Hannan - Colorado Avalanche 2 goals + 19 assists = 21 pointsChris Chelios - Detroit Red Wings 3 goals + 9 assists = 12 pointsPetteri Nummelin - Minnesota Wild 2 goals + 7 assists = 9 pointsBrooks Orpik - Pittsburgh Penguins 1 goal + 10 assists = 11 pointsMartin Skoula - Minnesota Wild 3 goals + 8 assists = 11 pointsDavid Tanabe - Carolina Hurricanes 1 goal + 2 assists = 3 pointsRobyn Regehr - Calgary Flames 5 goals + 15 assists = 20 pointsRadek Bonk - Nashville Predators 14 goals + 15 assists = 29 pointsDaniel Cleary - Detroit Red Wings 20 goals + 22 assists = 42 pointsPascal Dupuis - Pittsburgh Penguins 12 goals + 15 assists = 27 pointsBlair Jones - Tampa Bay LightningPaul Kariya - St. Louis Blues 16 goals + 49 assists = 65 pointsChuck Kobasew - Boston Bruins 22 goals + 17 assists = 39 pointsMaxim Lapierre - Montreal Canadiens 7 goals + 11 assists = 18 pointDavid Moss - Calgary Flames 4 goals + 7 assists = 11 pointsMats Sundin - Toronto Maple Leafs 32 goals + 45 assists = 77 pointsMaxime Talbot - Pittsburgh Penguins 12 goals + 14 assists = 26 pointsStephane Vellieux - Minnesota Wild 11 goals + 7 assists = 18 pointsMaxim Afinogenov - Buffalo Sabres 10 goals + 18 assists = 28 pointsSean Avery - New York Rangers 15 goals + 18 assists = 33 pointsBrian Gionta - New Jersey Devils 22 goals + 31 assists = 53 pointsDustin Penner - Edmonton Oilers 23 goals + 24 assists = 47 pointsMatt Greene - Edmonton Oilers 1 assist = 1 pointPierre Hedin - Toronto Maple LeafsStefan Kronvall - Toronto Maple LeafsAnton Strallman - Toronto Maple Leafs 3 goals + 6 assists = 9 pointsJustin Abdelkader - Detroit Red WingsMilan Bartovic - Chicago BlackhawksKris Beech - Pittsburgh Penguins 6 goals + 5 assists = 11 pointsBlair Betts - New York Rangers 2 goals + 5 assists = 7 pointsJonas Johansson - Washington CapitalsShawn Matthias - Florida Panthers 2 goals = 2 pointsJames Neal - Dallas StarsJonus Nordqvist - Chicago BlackhawksJustin Papineau - St. Louis BluesScott Parse - Los Angeles KingsIgor Radolov - Chicago BlackhawksBrandon Reid - Vancouver CanucksWayne Simmonds - Los Angeles KingsMichal Sivek - Pittsburgh PenguinsBill Sweat - Chicago BlackhawksJeremy Williams - Toronto Maple Leafs 2 goals = 2 pointsScott Niedermayer - Anaheim Ducks 8 goals + 17 assists = 25 pointsAndy Wozniewski - Toronto Maple Leafs 2 goals + 7 assists = 9 pointsDavid Krejci - Boston Bruins 6 goals + 21 assists = 27 pointsKyle Wellwood - Toronto Maple Leafs 8 goals + 13 assists = 21 pointsSCORECanadian Gothic 639Mustangs 723 Edited April 8, 2008 by digitalmonkey Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 $5000 real dollars? Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 I think I can sum this up in two words...Holy Shit. Link to post Share on other sites
InsanityCubed 0 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Holy Fucking Shit.Awesome bet. Link to post Share on other sites
Speed Limit 0 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 No matter who wins, it'll just be tracking this all. Bravo both of you. Link to post Share on other sites
Ottawa_Biatch 288 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Holy fack. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 You guys have lost it. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Yes we are pretty sick...but its a long season.$5000 over the course of the season isnt that much ......And for the integrity of the pool we have kept the rosters frozen at opening night...Should be fun.... Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafs 142 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Sticky, please? Link to post Share on other sites
TheDaveyG 6 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 I would love to know how many points you guys estimate you'll end up with. Seems to me, that with such a large bet and no points given either way, you both think the other is way off. Link to post Share on other sites
WestcoastCanuck 0 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Considering the edge DM has in all of this other bets, this bet seems way too close to bet on . I haven't really checked out the lower end guys, so I could be way off. Considering Monkey is making $25 bets where he has a huge edge, it seems odd for him to make a massive bet where he doesn't seem to have an edge. Link to post Share on other sites
nell789 0 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Considering the edge DM has in all of this other bets, this bet seems way too close to bet on . I haven't really checked out the lower end guys, so I could be way off. Considering Monkey is making $25 bets where he has a huge edge, it seems odd for him to make a massive bet where he doesn't seem to have an edge.I'm sure dale has estimated the point totals for every player on either roster, but Serge definitely has the edge at the top end. It'll be interesting to see if DM's depth can make up the ground. Link to post Share on other sites
sinc 0 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Cant believe the stakes wow. Are you not counting the first 2 anaheim games? Pronger had an assist in game 1. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 A little independent analysis on this, with no offense intended to either GM. Some of my projections are probably high, some are probably low, but I think when all is said and done that this outline will be pretty close to the actual outcome. Canadian Gothic RosterViable Fantasy Contributors (everyday contributors):Chris Pronger - Anaheim Ducks (Top 4 Defense, 55-65 points projected)Tyler Arnason - Colorado Avalanche 1 assist = 1 point (Top 9 forward, 40-50 points projected)Kyle Calder - Los Angeles Kings (Top 9 forward, 40-50 points projected)Matthew Lombardi - Calgary Flames (Top 6 forward, could see as many as 75 points)Mikael Samuelsson - Detroit Red Wings (Top 6 forward, 45-55 points projected)Todd White - Atlanta Thrashers (Top 6 forward, could see as many as 75 points)Mike York - Phoenix Coyotes (Top 6 forward, 45-55 points projected)David Vyborny - Columbus Blue Jackets (Top 6 forward, 55-65 points projected)Rod Brind'Amour - Carolina Hurricanes 1 assist = 1 point (Top 6 forward, could see as many as 75 points)Darcy Tucker - Toronto Maple Leafs (Top 6 forward, 55-65 points projected)Bryan Little - Atlanta Thrashers (Top 6 forward, may see as many as 50 NHL points)Total Projected Contribution - 630 pointsDepth Fantasy Contributors (Everyday players, but limited fantasy contributions):P.J. Axelsson - Boston Bruins (2nd to 3rd line winger, 25-35 points projected)Matt Foy - Minnesota Wild (Depth winger, less than 20 points projected)Sergei Brylin - New Jersey Devils (Depth forward, 35-45 points projected)Scott Walker - Carolina Hurricanes 1 assist = 1 point (2nd to 3rd line winger, 35-45 points projected)Ruslan Fedotenko - New York Islanders (Depth winger, 35-45 points projected)Guillaume Latendresse - Montreal Canadiens (Depth forward, 30-40 points projected)Francois Bouillon - Montreal Canadiens (Depth Defense, little to no PP)Steve Eminger - Washington Capitals (Depth Defense)Milan Jurcina - Washington Capitals (Top 4 Defense)Zbynek Michalek - Phoenix Coyotes (Top 4 Defense)Ladislav Smid - Edmonton Oilers (Currently AHL, Depth Defense)Henrik Tallinder - Buffalo Sabres (Depth Defense, little to no PP)Total Projected Contribution - 265 PointsProspects (May see spot NHL duty, cannot be counted on as contributors)Mike Mottau - New Jersey Devils (Depth Defense, historically worthless from a fantasy outlook)Jonathan Ericsson - Detroit Red Wings (AHL defenseman, little to no chance at seeing NHL ice this season)Milan Lucic - Boston Bruins (Depth forward, 25-35 points projected)Chris Conner - Dallas Stars (Sent down to the AHL by Dallas, may see as many as 15 points)Matthieu Perreault - Washington Capitals (Not expected to see any NHL action this season)Kevin Klein - Nashville Predators (Injured, will start the year in the AHL, may see 10 NHL points)Brendan Mikkelson - Anaheim Ducks (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)Matt Niskanen - Dallas Stars (Prospect, made the opening night roster due to injury, may see as many as 15 NHL points)Andrej Sekera - Buffalo Sabres (Sent down by Buffalo, will be the 7th defenseman for the Sabres, may see 15 NHL points)Oskars Bartulis - Philadelphia Flyers (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)Raymond Macias - Colorado Avalanche (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)Vladimir Mihalik - Tampa Bay Lightning (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)Brendan Smith - Detroit Red Wings (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)Troy Brouwer - Chicago Blackhawks (Doubtful he will see more than 10 NHL games, maybe 5 NHL points)Robbie Earl - Toronto Maple Leafs (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)Alexei Kaigorodov - Phoenix Coyotes (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)Rob Schremp - Edmonton Oilers (Sent to the AHL, might see 15 NHL games and 8 NHL points)Artem Anisimov - New York Rangers (Cut by NY, but may see as many as 20 NHL games and 10 NHL points)Luca Cunti - Tampa Bay Lightning (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)Jonathan Filewich - Pittsburgh Penguins (Cut by Pittsburgh, may see as many as 20 NHL games and 7 NHL points)Maxim Mayorov - Columbus Blue Jackets (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)Harrison Reed - Carolina Hurricanes (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)Total Projected Contribution - 100 points from the group, likely less.Canadian Gothic Total NHL Points - Roughly 1000 from the combined rosterMustangs RosterViable Fantasy Contributors (everyday contributors):Daniel Cleary - Detroit Red Wings (Top 6 forward, 45-55 points projected)Maxim Afinogenov - Buffalo Sabres (Top 6 forward, 75-85 points projected)Sean Avery - New York Rangers (Top 6 forward, 45-55 points projected)Brian Gionta - New Jersey Devils (Top 6 forward, 65-75 points projected)Dustin Penner - Anaheim Ducks (Top 6 forward, 50-60 points projected)Paul Kariya - St. Louis Blues (Top 6 forward, 70-80 points projected)Mats Sundin - Toronto Maple Leafs 2 assists = 2 points (Top 6 forward, 75-85 points projected)Kyle Wellwood - Toronto Maple Leafs (Top 6 forward, but currently injured. May see as many as 45 NHL points)Total Projected Contribution - 500 pointsDepth Fantasy Contributors (Everyday players, but limited fantasy contributions):Josh Gorges - Montreal Canadiens (Depth defense, 5-10 points projected)Scott Hannan - Colorado Avalanche (Top 4 defense, 25-35 points projected)Chris Chelios - Detroit Red Wings (Depth defense, 5-15 points projected)Petteri Nummelin - Minnesota Wild (Depth defense, 15-25 points projected)Brooks Orpik - Pittsburgh Penguins (Depth defense, 5-15 points projected)Martin Skoula - Minnesota Wild (Top 4 defense, 15-25 points projected)Robyn Regehr - Calgary Flames (Top 4 defenseman, 25-35 points projected)Radek Bonk - Nashville Predators (Depth forward, 20-30 points projected)Pascal Dupuis - Atlanta Thrashers (Depth forward, 20-30 points projected) Blair Jones - Tampa Bay Lightning (Depth forward, 20-30 points projected)Chuck Kobasew - Boston Bruins (Depth forward, 35-45 points projected)Maxim Lapierre - Montreal Canadiens (Depth forward, 20-30 points projected)David Moss - Calgary Flames (Depth forward, 35-45 points projected)Maxime Talbot - Pittsburgh Penguins (Depth forward, 20-30 points projected)Stephane Vellieux - Minnesota Wild (Depth forward, 15-25 points projected)Andy Wozniewski - Toronto Maple Leafs 2 assists = 2 points (Depth defenseman, may see as many as 20 NHL points)David Krejci - Boston Bruins (Depth forward, 25-35 points projected)Blair Betts - New York Rangers (Depth forward, 10-20 points projected)Matt Greene - Edmonton Oilers (Depth defense, 10-20 points projected)Scott Niedermayer - Anaheim Ducks (Not on the current roster, may see as many as 30 NHL points assuming he comes back at all)Total Projected Contribution (Not counting Niedermayer) - 425 PointsProspects (May see spot NHL duty, cannot be counted on as contributors)David Tanabe - UFA (Not currently owned by an NHL team, may see as many as 15 NHL points if he catches on somewhere)Pierre Hedin - Toronto Maple Leafs (Not currently signed to an NHL team)Stefan Kronvall - Toronto Maple Leafs (Depth defense, may see 5 NHL points)Anton STrallman - Toronto Maple Leafs (Prospect, may see 10 NHL points)Justin Abdelkader - Detroit Red Wings (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)Milan Bartovic - Chicago Blackhawks (Not currently signed to an NHL team)Kris Beech - Columbus Blue Jackets (Waived by Columbus, will play in the AHL to start the season, may see 15 NHL points)Jonas Johansson - Washington Capitals (Not curently signed to an NHL team)Shawn Matthias - Florida Panthers (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)James Neal - Dallas Stars (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)Jonus Nordqvist - Chicago Blackhawks (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)Justin Papineau - St. Louis Blues (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)Scott Parse - Los Angeles Kings (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)Igor Radolov - Chicago Blackhawks (Not curently signed to an NHL team)Brandon Reid - Vancouver Canucks (Not curently signed to an NHL team)Wayne Simmons - Los Angeles Kings (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)Michal Sivek - Pittsburgh Penguins (Not curently signed to an NHL team)Bill Sweat - Chicago Blackhawks (Prospect, not expected to see NHL ice this season)Jeremy Williams - Toronto Maple Leafs (Prospect, may see as many as 15 NHL points this season)Total Projected Contribution - Call it 35 points from the group, likely less.Mustangs Total NHL Points - Roughly 960 Points from the combined rosterResult:This is a remarkably even contest, and will likely come right down to the last weeks of the season to settle the outcome. Serge's team has more high end (70+ points) offensive talent, which offsets the fact that he's carrying a lot of dead weight in the form of prospects that never panned out and raw rookies not quite ready for the NHL. Dale's strength is in team depth, very few top-end stars but also very little dead weight. This will be a lot of fun to watch all season long. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 Cant believe the stakes wow. Are you not counting the first 2 anaheim games? Pronger had an assist in game 1.Oh yeah, thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
rinswun 6 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 this is awesome. balls out y'all! Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 I think injuries will play a big part of this..but my team is so good I am not worried Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted October 7, 2007 Author Share Posted October 7, 2007 This is going pretty much as expected with most of Serge's points coming from the same few players. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 This is going pretty much as expected with most of Serge's points coming from the same few players.Last time I checked its still October 7...and most teams have 80 more games to go.... Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Last time I checked its still October 7...and most teams have 80 more games to go.... If you believe that to be true, serge, then why are you chirping about Mats Sundin's scoring totals? Link to post Share on other sites
TheDaveyG 6 Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 I do not think this is a real bet. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 I do not think this is a real bet. Boy, Christmas must have sucked at your house from an early age. "I do not think there is a real santa claus". Link to post Share on other sites
TheDaveyG 6 Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Boy, Christmas must have sucked at your house from an early age. "I do not think there is a real santa claus".Well, lust just say it wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't real. It does not seem like a wager DM or Serge would make. No points given either way, no minimum games played, plus the large bet. Good entertainment though if it is real. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted October 8, 2007 Author Share Posted October 8, 2007 Injury UpdateCanadian GothicSteve Eminger (D) - Ankle injury, day-to-day - IRRaymond Macias (D) - Undisclosed, sidelined indefinitely - IRKevin Klein (D) - Shoulder injury, day-to-day - IRZbynek Michalek (D) - Broken hand, sidelined indefinitelyMustangsSean Avery (W/C) -Separated right shoulder, early NovemberKyle Wellwood (C/W) - Groin, sidelined indefinitely - IRScott Niedermayer (D) - SuspendedDavid Moss (RW) - Upper body injury, day-to-day - IR Link to post Share on other sites
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