Aa In Position With The Nut Flush Draw. Best Way To Get Value?

[prideofatx 0]

Hand #46795289-44 at SnG-0009d (No Limit Hold'em Sit and Go)Started at 03/Oct/07 00:33:29 nickjanssen is at seat 1 with 1630. smelly hobo is at seat 2 with 1865. prideofatx is at seat 3 with 1245. aka_Q is at seat 4 with 1250. conniufan is at seat 7 with 4735. Eli2652 is at seat 9 with 4275. The button is at seat 4. conniufan posts the small blind of 30. Eli2652 posts the big blind of 60. nickjanssen: -- -- smelly hobo: -- -- prideofatx: Ad Ah aka_Q: -- -- conniufan: -- -- Eli2652: -- --Pre-flop: nickjanssen folds. smelly hobo raises to 180. prideofatx calls. aka_Q folds. conniufan folds. Eli2652 folds. Flop (board: Jh 4h Qh): smelly hobo bets 450. prideofatx calls. Turn (board: Jh 4h Qh 9c):Smelly hobo pushed all in with an amount about equal to the pot (sorry lost the last part of this hand history)Was my failure to reraise preflop a bad play? I have found it profitable to smooth call when i think im going to be in position heads up and let maniacs (he c betted and bluffed alot) do my betting. I find they will easily stack off with an over pair or top pair top kicker or some sort of combo draw. Is this worth the risk of my opponent flopping two pair?plus, do i call on the turn now getting two to one? i believe his range was flush draw, top pair, overpair, two pair (i dont think he has the flush because he has always slowplayed his huge hands)this is my first post, any help would be appreciated

[prideofatx 0]

*correction i was getting about 2.5 to one on the turn

[Yahkin 0]

You gotta reraise that PF to isolate on the original raiser. I'm not worried about the original raiser hitting two pair, I'm worried about the blinds coming along for a cheap ride and hitting two pair. You don't want to play AA against multiple callers.Just shove the flop.

[biff_goods 0]

I don't mind the flat call on the flop if you can actually lay down the AA's if you are beat. Definitely shove the flop though, he will call most of the time with worse hands than you and you have a re-draw.

[copernicus 0]

you played it fine. A reraise preflop to have any real impact has to be to at least 400, you cant even approach a pot size raise without chasing a lesser hand short of QQ,KK, AK, because youre pot committed at that point and they know it. On the flop youve gotten heads up and youre the one with the draw, so youre way ahead, or slightly behind with at least 9 out draw but more likely 11 or more, and villain is willing to lead into you. You can still lose him with a big raise, but its close to pot committing as is. Pushing isnt horrible, but I think its not as good as calling in most cases. Thats confirmed by his pushing on the river, and yes your are obviously calling that, because even if youre behind, the nut flush draw alone is justified by 2:1 odds, and youre getting more than that.

[Yahkin 0]

you played it fine. A reraise preflop to have any real impact has to be to at least 400, you cant even approach a pot size raise without chasing a lesser hand short of QQ,KK, AK, because youre pot committed at that point and they know it. On the flop youve gotten heads up and youre the one with the draw, so youre way ahead, or slightly behind with at least 9 out draw but more likely 11 or more, and villain is willing to lead into you. You can still lose him with a big raise, but its close to pot committing as is. Pushing isnt horrible, but I think its not as good as calling in most cases. Thats confirmed by his pushing on the river, and yes your are obviously calling that, because even if youre behind, the nut flush draw alone is justified by 2:1 odds, and youre getting more than that.

So you don't mind pricing the blinds in PF? Flat call PF and the BB is getting nearly 4-1 to join the pot. And this is especially true since the blinds have the big stacks and would happy to get a cheap chance to knock a couple players out.

[hblask 1]

The way you played it is fine, and shoving preflop is fine. I would decide based on the table and the action up to that point. In the tournaments I've played in, I'm probably 70% shove, 20% small raise with the intent of shoving any flop, and 10% flat call PF, with the intention of getting all my money in no matter what. I'll rarely NOT get my money all-in here at some point. Stacks are too small, and tournaments are too short. If you are in a deep stack tournament, there's more to think about. Here, get the money in whichever way you think is best. You got it in, nice hand.

[copernicus 0]

So you don't mind pricing the blinds in PF? Flat call PF and the BB is getting nearly 4-1 to join the pot. And this is especially true since the blinds have the big stacks and would happy to get a cheap chance to knock a couple players out.

no, Id be more concerned about that with KK to not let a cheap Ace in. AA's equity still increases with additional callers, and in a Sng in particular you cant afford to chase players away from your big hands. also controlling pot size to be able to apply some pressure post flop is more imporant, imo.Deep stacked I would definitely reraise.

[jjgoldy5 0]

no, Id be more concerned about that with KK to not let a cheap Ace in. AA's equity still increases with additional callers, and in a Sng in particular you cant afford to chase players away from your big hands. also controlling pot size to be able to apply some pressure post flop is more imporant, imo.Deep stacked I would definitely reraise.

QFT (as usual with cop)I like the way you played it... you make it look like you're on a draw by smooth calling, so he is shoving a lot of hands here once the heart misses the turn.If you got drawn out on, no big deal, he's going to put it in on that turn a lot when you are way ahead, and you cant pass up opportunities to double up like this.